Posted on 02/01/2009 10:37:34 AM PST by BobL
“We didn’t need any regulation or protections for the first 100 years.”
Unfortunately, we do need some regulations. I’m sure even China and Mexico City have some. Prior to our cleaning up, we had REALLY dirty air in Los Angeles, and a river on fire in Ohio. I grew up near smoke stacks and still remember the air.
But we can roll them back to a very reasonable level. The first 90% of pollution is VERY easy to deal with, it’s the next 9%, and then then next 0.9% that gets extremely expensive. It only took 10 years, by 1980, to get 90% of the junk out of car exhausts (mainly by use of catalytic converters). It was a piece of cake. We need to take that 90% and live with it for a while.
So, for example, take the regulations that were in place, maybe in 1975 and just go forward with that (maybe tweak a bit if they were bad in some areas), but that’s it.
DEFINITELY eliminate all the updates to the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, Affirmative Action (that, unfortunately, Bush signed into law). Get rid of the ADA, just trash it...it costs billions. Get rid of Air Bags (but do keep seat belts - they do get you 90% there). Lots more...but I can’t think of them now.
I lack information on food storage. Any ideas on that topic would be welcome i.e. what type of foods, how to store food etc. etc.
“I’m up for any suggestion.”
My suggestion:
Have Sarah use the theme: “Back to the Past” for her campaign. Today, it sounds more like what the Dems will use against her, but in 4 years, people will be BEGGING for a return to those days. She needs to get with business leaders, (legitimate) economists, bloggers, and many others and map out that platform soon. That is both how she gets elected, and then how she gets a mandate to govern.
I’ll be ping you if I start a doomsday thread. There is a lot of info on the net. I don’t know a whole lot beyond the obvious, but I’m sure that others do.
Also, keep in mind that there will be food available (for the other 99% of the masses), so we can try to figure out just what will be there. One thing that I definitely expect are long lines to buy food.
Seeing how our Governor has returned home from his stint in Washington (where he spent 8 years being abused by a bunch of ingrates he spent every waking hour making sure no one blew them up)we might just do that.
““Here It Comes” Karl Denninger
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2175802/posts";
Yea, I read that also. Incredibly scary and part of my motivation for starting this thread. But he’s adding up the numbers, and the results are bad.
“It wouldn’t surprise me to see Texas looking at options”
“Seeing how our Governor has returned home from his stint in Washington (where he spent 8 years being abused by a bunch of ingrates he spent every waking hour making sure no one blew them up)we might just do that.”
Yea, but the interesting part will be how the feds try to convince us to take our share of their debt (which will be about 1.5T, by my estimate), not to mention us asking for our share of the Social Security Trust Fund (ha, ha, gotcha). Civil War 2 anyone?
There are occasional articles on coming food shortages. I do know that once bulging grain silos are now empty. I have seen it i.e. Boone Iowa.
The regulations I am speaking of are more the hiring quota, sub-prime minority loan, paying farmers not to farm type of intervention.
It wouldn’t surprise me to see Texas looking at options.Despite the fact that Texas can legally secede, it would surprise me if they did. Texas absorbs more Federal money than it generates.
“Despite the fact that Texas can legally secede, it would surprise me if they did. Texas absorbs more Federal money than it generates.”
Maybe, but the difference is relatively minor, considering all the crap that we have to go through to get those crumbs (like federal permission to expand a highway or build or expand a refinery...heck we could even have real light bulbs again). If we could shed our federal shackles, we’d be MUCH BETTER OFF. The biggest problem, in my opinion, is that Texans really don’t appreciate just how much better off we’d be.
“I’ve grown up and spent most of my life in Michigan, I am well aware of the pollution of industry.
The regulations I am speaking of are more the hiring quota, sub-prime minority loan, paying farmers not to farm type of intervention.”
I’m with you then. It’s just that there are some libertarian types that think business leaders are simply a bunch of angels that would never harm the environment or endanger workers. They’re not, their job is to maximize investor returns, nothing else. So they do need some help once in a while with their decisions.
I concur, most business leaders are only slightly less gready than any politician.
Amen.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2144465/posts
This one is directly related to food storage.
Thanks Snippy, I knew it was there.
“Despite the fact that Texas can legally secede”
Not true. Even if it WERE true in 1845, forced repatriation into the U.S. in 1865 would have effectively ended secession as a right.
In any case, such a thing is NOT in Texas’ State Charter. It’s a common myth in Texas, and I used to believe it, myself. Until, to prove the point, I looked it up.
What IS in the State Charter is that Texas has the right to self-determine a split into 5 States. The Fed Gov’t saw Texas as similar to a LA Purchase and wanted to carve it up. Texas politely refused. But. The Feds put into the charter that we COULD splinter into 5 States, if we ever decided to do so.
Texas does not have the “legal” right to withdraw from a Federal Union. Of course, that doesn’t preclude the option of, “Come and take us if you think you can.”
And I agree. Texas is the place to be. Glad I’m here. My home value is steady, and my job seems secure.
Does anyone know where the Here It Comes thread went?
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