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To: gusopol3
now quote the part about the very high incidence with atypicals that you refer to, instead of apparently a case report of three.

I am happy to provide you with an abundance of references on the incidence of akathisia in patients treated with anti-psychotics. I posted the case reports to illustrate the fact that (a) akathisia is caused by anti-psychotics, which the article states in the abstract, and (b) the state of mind is described by one of the patients as a "living hell."

If you want a report on the incidence of akathisia among anti-psychotic users, there are many articles you can read. A recent article with 99 participants showed that an anti-psychotic used for 12 weeks caused extrapyramidal symptoms in 59.6% patients and 33.3% of those had akathisia. See: Nasrallah, H.A., Buecher, M., & Paulsson, B. (2006). Placebo-level incidence of extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS) with quetiapine in controlled studies of patients with bipolar mania. Bipolar Disorders, 8, 467-474.

For a recent general review of the research on the atypical antipsychotics, see Pierre, J.M. (2005). Extrapyramidal symptoms with atypical antipsychotics: Incidence, prevention and management. Drug Safety, 28(3), 191-208.

Also note the Clintonian escape parsing of "the closest thing to hell on earth," which is what I challenged you on, vs what you say now , "a hell on earth" which, although hyperbolic , I would not object to. Oh, sorry, I'm putting words in your mouth, your own.

Oh, please -- get a grip.
90 posted on 01/30/2009 6:37:49 PM PST by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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To: bdeaner

post #54, totally independently of me, makes the very same point— your argument are propagandistic and bombastic, then when you’re confronted, you withdraw to the position of the wounded academic who is being pilloried for his superior knowledge.


94 posted on 01/31/2009 4:43:26 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: bdeaner
12 weeks caused extrapyramidal symptoms in 59.6% patients and 33.3% of those had akathisia.

significantly higher, outlandishly higher than the figures in the PDR. I can hear the bleating now, "Those are drug company numbers." Yes, with the imprimatur of the FDA whose standards you find golden when you want to use them. It appears that there is an entire Scientology influenced community like yourself in academia who grind out worthless commentary primarily as political propaganda.

95 posted on 01/31/2009 4:49:14 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: bdeaner
Oh, please -- get a grip.

you said what you said, you can pretend "words (or quotation marks) don't matter" all you want--the intent is obvious.

96 posted on 01/31/2009 5:09:21 AM PST by gusopol3
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