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A Most Excellent History Lesson
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Posted on 01/29/2009 10:00:17 AM PST by Taxman

Edited on 01/29/2009 10:22:16 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

This video deals with a subject not taught in schools anymore -- the nature of governments.

It is an EXCELLENT history lesson, and, quite sadly, a first-class demonstration as to what we have to look forward to.

It should be REQURIED viewing for every citizen, politician, and school-age child/young adult!

Please watch the video and ping your FRiends and neighbors to it:

http://www.wimp.com/thegovernment/


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: anarchy; democracy; dictatorship; republic
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To: T Lady

Thank you!


41 posted on 01/30/2009 9:38:37 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Even back in the 1950s when I was in high school there was some of it; I ran into a Civic teacher who asked as a homework question whether people have to do what society tells them to. I, naively, reasoned that since we have freedom the answer was "No." The teacher asserted in class the next day that that was wrong and that "society" meant government.

I would disagree with your whole premise that a culture/society/nation doesn't have the right, in fact duty, to establish minimum standards of behavior for its members. Not only that, but a mechanism to enforce those standards. We could call it -- laws, maybe...

Just curious, but did you watch the video this thread was based on???

42 posted on 01/30/2009 11:10:46 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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To: ForGod'sSake
Even back in the 1950s when I was in high school there was some of it; I ran into a Civic teacher who asked as a homework question whether people have to do what society tells them to. I, naively, reasoned that since we have freedom the answer was "No." The teacher asserted in class the next day that that was wrong and that "society" meant government.
I would disagree with your whole premise that a culture/society/nation doesn't have the right, in fact duty, to establish minimum standards of behavior for its members. Not only that, but a mechanism to enforce those standards. We could call it -- laws, maybe...
The objection is not to laws, but to the concept that everything which is not mandated by those laws is forbidden by them. And the import of equating "society" with government is precisely that. Why else do you think that socialists equate those two different things? They rhetorically hide behind the word "society" - or, sometimes, "the public sector" - when government is precisely what they mean.

43 posted on 01/31/2009 3:58:22 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Change is what journalism is all about. NATURALLY journalists favor "change.")
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To: BufordP; Taxman

Thanks! Did you scroll throughto see all that was there?


44 posted on 01/31/2009 3:59:49 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Hey Zero you are a Marxist!)
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To: ForGod'sSake
Just curious, but did you watch the video this thread was based on???
I hope you don't think I wrote reply #8 without having done so . . .

45 posted on 01/31/2009 4:28:01 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Change is what journalism is all about. NATURALLY journalists favor "change.")
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Why else do you think that socialists equate those two different things? They rhetorically hide behind the word "society" - or, sometimes, "the public sector" - when government is precisely what they mean.

I think we're probably on two different pages. You would agree then that a culture/society/nation has a right, or more accurately, a duty to first identify, codify and ultimately enforce the qualities they feel will maintain or even improve the chances of survival of the group?

I can't argue the point that control freaks, our would-be masters, won't use every means at their disposal to increase their control. Including speaking on behalf of society/government. The term I find most grating, particularly from our domestic socialist enemies is when they presume to speak for Americans. We've all heard it hundreds of times, "Americans want_____________________(fill in government program), or Americans don't want_____________________(fill in the blank again with any private initiative) in their effort to legitimize their claims. Of course their partners in the MSM are masters at legitimizing the false premise. They've had lots of practice; it's their stock in trade.

Bottom line, I doubt we really have a quibble at all...

46 posted on 01/31/2009 10:15:54 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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To: ForGod'sSake
Bottom line, I doubt we really have a quibble at all...
Agreed.

47 posted on 02/01/2009 1:17:17 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Change is what journalism is all about. NATURALLY journalists favor "change.")
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To: wombtotomb
Ping.

48 posted on 04/18/2009 10:02:58 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Thanks for the ping! The posting is great to see! Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!


49 posted on 04/18/2009 4:29:59 PM PDT by wombtotomb
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