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To: CE2949BB; tpanther
Accepting the reality of the science doesn't mean you're rejecting God (in the case of evolution) or that you want to dictate what kind of car a person drives (in the case of climate change).

Likewise, accepting the reality of God doesn't make you anti-science like cm used to accuse everyone who disagreed with him of.

You're attempting to frame this in a "cultural war" context, which simply isn't valid.

It is a culture war and science is the weapon of choice with which to bludgeon Christianity with. It's being used to push religion out of schools in the name of science. It's been used to make out Christians as being ignorant and anti-progress.

The culture war is between the ideology that's hijacked science and Christianity.

It would do good for you guys to see that and rescue science from their grip. Evos refusal to do so only reinforces the idea that evos are throwing their chips in with the liberals/atheists/God haters.

You're going to have a hard time convincing anyone that you are not also liberal/atheist/God haters if you don't speak up against the abuse and misuse of science instead of justifying or excusing what they do.

269 posted on 01/28/2009 7:57:43 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

I have absolutely no idea what you mean. Please, cite examples.


274 posted on 01/28/2009 8:01:43 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: metmom; CE2949BB

is a culture war and science is the weapon of choice with which to bludgeon Christianity with. It’s being used to push religion out of schools in the name of science. It’s been used to make out Christians as being ignorant and anti-progress.

The culture war is between the ideology that’s hijacked science and Christianity.

It would do good for you guys to see that and rescue science from their grip. Evos refusal to do so only reinforces the idea that evos are throwing their chips in with the liberals/atheists/God haters.

You’re going to have a hard time convincing anyone that you are not also liberal/atheist/God haters if you don’t speak up against the abuse and misuse of science instead of justifying or excusing what they do.


Very well said and a nice exercise for those that truly are not fully in the grips of this cult should ask themselves if they can find a serious peer review of evolution that is not automatically attacked as non-science, junk science or religious attacks on science.

Then, for kicks they should anonymously challenge evolution in some way, any way, for instance asserting it’s not fact but theory and see what these responses looks like...if it’s about the science or something else, as, on FR anyway, it’s always invariably about something else.

Everytime I’ve seen it challenged, it’s almost always met with a furious “counter-assault” on religion and science has little if anything to do with it. Any challenge whatsoever is literally taken as an insult.

If you post a scientist’s observations, the first thing cultists want to know is their credentials. (Which on it’s face is understandable if it’s official.)

If that’s OK, then it’s on to the next step...are they a member of some religious outfit like a “creationsist group out to undermine science”, and so on...

it literally never ever ends...

all the hallmarks of a cult.


303 posted on 01/28/2009 8:28:00 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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