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Said MrJesse: Uhh, this is science we're talking about here.
Replied tacticalogic: I don't think so.

Huh? Whether the sun appears at any point in time 2.1 degrees behind its actual position is not science? Whether Pluto is below the horizon when it appears overhead is not science?

This is about going after people because of their religious belifs, and I'm not going to help you do that.

I'm not asking anyone to go after anyone because of their religious beliefs! I'm not even asking anyone to go after someone's religious beliefs! I'm asking you, as a logical thinking person, to go after somebody's false scientific claims!

The only reason I brought up religious beliefs is because for some strange and magical reason you won't call to task LeGrande on his false scientific claims -- and I can't figure out any reason that you won't take a stand against LeGrande's obvious lie -- except that maybe it's because you and he belong to the same religion and therefore won't call to task a "Brother in the faith" or whatever you want to call it. But if I'm wrong, by all means tell me why you won't take a stand against a lie!

And for the record I don't care one bit what somebody's religion is when it comes to their scientific claims when they say that the sun's apparent position is lagged by 2.1 degrees from its actual position for an observer on earth at an instant in time - I will then have all the same questions as I do to LeGrande.

So, please explain, in your own words, how come you won't take a stand against LeGrande's false claim? Why?

-Jesse

[mrjesse to tacticalogic] So, please explain, in your own words, how come you won't take a stand against LeGrande's false claim? Why?

Probably because he doesn't understand the science behind it. In any case, it is clear that many of the evolution-loudmouths couldn't give a damn about science unless it's the sort of "science" that gives them the opportunity for some jolly good anti-God and anti-Bible ravings. They couldn't be arsed with an issue like this one. So don't expect anything from them.

Here's some tripe monist science, a melange of physics and biology, by a very famous evolutionist:

Tetrakinetic Theory
The Origin of Life

Now, you'd imagine that evolutionists, having as they do very acute consciences regarding scientific verity and rigor, would not encourage such rubbish. But they do, and it should not come as a surprise. That stuff by Osborn made it into Newman's Evolution textbook. And it appears, a decade later, as recommended reading in Creation by Evolution, which is a remarkable book by the way, endorsed and written by the highest exponents of evolution "science" of the era. Top-knotch guys with top-knotch credentials writing top-knotch rubber science.

The only reason I brought up religious beliefs is because for some strange and magical reason you won't call to task LeGrande on his false scientific claims -- and I can't figure out any reason that you won't take a stand against LeGrande's obvious lie -- except that maybe it's because you and he belong to the same religion and therefore won't call to task a "Brother in the faith" or whatever you want to call it. But if I'm wrong, by all means tell me why you won't take a stand against a lie!

I won't join you because I simply don't think it's worth the animosity.

Why is it the only reason you think two people can simply agree to disagree, and part company amicably on an issue can only mean there is some tacit religiously motivated conspiracy against you involved?