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Question on requirement to present ID to police officer (vanity)
FR ^ | 1/24/2008 | Domandred

Posted on 01/24/2009 10:16:42 PM PST by Domandred

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To: just deserts
...Sometimes at elections I vote for men about whom I know very little...

Yes, that's the test I took. Interesting question here - and one which nearly all democrats must answer "true". :-)

161 posted on 01/25/2009 4:59:56 PM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: Aurorales
OK, you are hysterical.

Starting point: Man involved in accident as passenger provides ID to officer who fills out accident report. Man gets case number to give to insurance company.

End point: Tyranny,Communism, slavery Jews from the Holocaust The battle cry of “Never Again!”

OK, you are hysterical.

162 posted on 01/25/2009 5:00:15 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: IrishCatholic
Instead you have a minor property accident and the cop trying to fill out a state form the way the state wants if filled out.

Fortunately we live in a country where our government, as well as the people, is regulated by the law. The state may want the forms filled out in a certain way but the courts have determined that they do not have that right to insist on it. Again, asking and insisting is the difference.

163 posted on 01/25/2009 5:17:54 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: thefactor

In my state that would amount to leaving the scene of an accident. I bumped a truck once. My car was damaged the truck was not. I couldn’t find the owner but left my name etc.

I had the cops at my house a couple of days later.


164 posted on 01/25/2009 5:20:18 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: IrishCatholic

Everything in this world matters. Small, big, right or wrong.

Step back and look at the big picture. Oh, and may I suggest you read two books to understand that evil exists in this world.

The Bible and Atlas Shrugged.

We are a nation of laws. One persons opinion on what is acceptable or tolerated is just that, opinion.

This is a Constitutional Republic. We have the right to privacy. Thank God your opinion doesn’t trump the law.


165 posted on 01/25/2009 5:26:34 PM PST by Aurorales
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To: Domandred

No, you don’t have to have a driver’s license on you to be a passenger, and so if you don’t have it, then there’s nothing to produce...

You might check with some legal eagles in the state, but I’m sure you don’t have to produce your I.D. for the police. You can answer the question regarding your name, which they can run on their computers in a few minutes anyway....

I would definitely find out about it for your own local area and then be better prepared next time...


166 posted on 01/25/2009 5:30:26 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Straight Vermonter

and? what is your point? did they give you a ticket? arrest you?


167 posted on 01/25/2009 5:32:40 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: IrishCatholic

“The guy was there to fill out a form. “


A lot of talk about filling out ‘forms’. Cops seem to do a lot that.

Well if the form has a spot for everyone’s DL then I guess we have no choice. Better just supply whatever the form requires.


168 posted on 01/25/2009 5:32:52 PM PST by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals do not view the book 1984 as a warning but as a guideline.)
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To: thefactor

No but I found it interesting that 2 underpaid, overworked cops had time to grill me about something that was purely an accident and which I never tried to conceal.


169 posted on 01/25/2009 5:35:29 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: just deserts; txnuke

I took the MMPI many years ago at a Christian counseling session, part of something that was recommended by a pastor for improving marriages. Anyway, so we went there and I remember the guy asking if I was a Christian or not (well..., it was a Christian counseling place...) and I said yes. He said he had to know that so he could “adjust” the scores, or it would make it seem that I was “off” otherwise, as it was biased against Christian thinking and answers...

LOL...


170 posted on 01/25/2009 6:01:13 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: thefactor
"i would have told me neighbor to get an estimate and i'd take care of the bill. especially of this "accident" happened on private property. "

Most states have a specified dollar limit that's used to determine if an accident/police report is required. A simple little dent with scratched paint can cost $2k when a dealer "does it right" and refinishes a whole fender. It also doesn't matter if the damage occurs on private property. The report is still required when the damage excedes the statutory $ amount.

171 posted on 01/25/2009 6:02:22 PM PST by spunkets
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To: thefactor

You said — “what if you have an accident? how will people know who you are? how will they notify your relatives? i’m serious. carrying ID really isnt that big of a deal, imho. but, of course, i’m a jack-booted thug.”

The person can easily carry a piece of paper saying, “I am so-and-so. Call this number in case of emergency.”

That should do it...


172 posted on 01/25/2009 6:06:03 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

yeah, that’s much easier than simply carrying an ID.


173 posted on 01/25/2009 6:11:59 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor

Carrying ID is a different issue than being forced to show it anytime a cop feels like it.


174 posted on 01/25/2009 6:58:29 PM PST by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals do not view the book 1984 as a warning but as a guideline.)
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To: GreyMountainReagan
it is imperative to get a proper name/address of people involved in an accident (even though the cops never should have been called to this scene).

insurance fraud is a big concern nowadays. look, i wasn't there, but come on. it is so STUPID to call the cops for help and then stonewall them! you called them! let them do their job properly.

175 posted on 01/25/2009 7:51:35 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Straight Vermonter

$250 in Idaho. Paint will cost more than that, and doesn’t include labor unless you go to Earl Shribe and get the $99 rattle can special.


176 posted on 01/25/2009 8:02:07 PM PST by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: IrishCatholic
He didn't want to provide any info to the cop and ended up with his wife not speaking to him.

No the cop stopped speaking to me after I called her on not needing my license and gave it to her anyways. My wife is in agreement with me.

Far as being a jerk, my rights are a lot more important to me than being polite.

177 posted on 01/25/2009 8:06:48 PM PST by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: thefactor
it is so STUPID to call the cops for help and then stonewall them

There is some confusion there. Neither my wife nor I called the police. The owner of the other car called the police.

178 posted on 01/25/2009 8:23:15 PM PST by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: Domandred
as i said in my earlier posts, this should have been handled without the cops in the first place.

but if everyone agreed to call them, there should be cooperation.

nice neighbor you got there, huh?

179 posted on 01/25/2009 8:44:13 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Straight Vermonter
So it does come down to a maturity level.
The courts, as far as I know, haven't said anything on what an accident report says. If you know different, cite chapter and section numbers for all fifty states-just to be sure we get it right. Don't state a fact you can't support. Once again the person was an occupant of the vehicle, not a bystander.
The state wants the form filled out a certain way. Don't like it? Get the state to change it or don't complain.
180 posted on 01/26/2009 5:03:40 AM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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