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To: tpanther

The quote you posted isn’t particularly scientific. It isn’t unscientific, either. It’s an opinion. There was nothing of religion in the quote you offered. There was also not a endorsement of intelligent design or creationism, nor an attack on evolution.


320 posted on 01/22/2009 8:07:54 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError

I already told you scientists see the data and interpret the empirical evidence subjectively...much of science IS opinion.

Some astronomers have the opinion that Pluto is still a planet and didn’t need re-classifying, some doctors think drug A is better than drug B for hypertension and vice versa.

Ummm read again, there’s an indictment there against evolution, ignoring it doesn’t make it go away either.

Same for these observations:


Dissenting Scientist Ralph Seelke Discusses His Doubts About Darwin

In this interview, Dr. Ralph Seelke shares about his current evolution research, and why he is skeptical of Darwinian evolution.

Ralph Seelke received his Ph.D. in Microbiology from the University of Minnesota and the Mayo Graduate School of Medicine in 1981, was a postdoctoral researcher at the Mayo Clinic until 1983, and has been an Associate Professor or Professor in the Department of Biology and Earth Sciences at the University of Wisconsin-Superior since 1989. An authority on evolution’s capabilities and limitations in producing new functions in bacteria, Prof. Seelke recently co-authored the science textbook “Explore Evolution: The Case For and Against Neo-Darwinism.”


Professor Colin Reeves, Coventry University

Darwinism was an interesting idea in the 19th century, when handwaving explanations gave a plausible, if not properly scientific, framework into which we could fit biological facts. However, what we have learned since the days of Darwin throws doubt on natural selection’s ability to create complex biological systems - and we still have little more than handwaving as an argument in its favour.

Professor Colin Reeves
Dept of Mathematical Sciences
Coventry University


Chris Williams, Ph.D., Biochemistry Ohio State University

As a biochemist and software developer who works in genetic and metabolic screening, I am continually amazed by the incredible complexity of life. For example, each of us has a vast ‘computer program’ of six billion DNA bases in every cell that guided our development from a fertilized egg, specifies how to make more than 200 tissue types, and ties all this together in numerous highly functional organ systems. Few people outside of genetics or biochemistry realize that evolutionists still can provide no substantive details at all about the origin of life, and particularly the origin of genetic information in the first self-replicating organism. What genes did it require – or did it even have genes? How much DNA and RNA did it have – or did it even have nucleic acids? How did huge information-rich molecules arise before natural selection? Exactly how did the genetic code linking nucleic acids to amino acid sequence originate? Clearly the origin of life – the foundation of evolution - is still virtually all speculation, and little if no fact.


“Darwinian evolutionary theory was my field of specialization in biology. Among other things, I wrote a textbook on the subject thirty years ago. Meanwhile, however I have become an apostate from Darwinian theory and have described it as part of modernism’s origination myth. Consequently, I certainly agree that biology students at least should have the opportunity to learn about the flaws and limits of Darwin’s theory while they are learning about the theory’s strongest claims.”

Dr. Stanley Salthe, Professor Emeritus, Brooklyn College of the City University of New York


338 posted on 01/23/2009 3:55:47 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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