Gotta leave for awhile, but like hte link to creationwiki I posted said- pointing to an animal that is completely different than us, and statign that because they have different mechanisms for blood clotting in no way undermines the fact that blood clotting in other species NEEDS the IC parts inplace or else they’ll perish. Animals, espeically species which live in water envirnments, could and most likely very well do have a compeltely different blood clottign mechanism by DESING.
Sorry. Your earlier quote from Behe (after he had a chance to think about how wrong he was the first time) was:
“...Because of that uncertainty, I said, let’s, leaving aside the system before the fork in the pathway, where some details are less well-known, the blood clotting system fits the definition of irreducible complexity. And I noted that the components of the system beyond the fork in the pathway are fibrinogen, prothrombin, Stuart factor, and proaccelerin. So I was focusing on a particular part of the pathway, as I tried to make clear in Darwin’s Black Box. If we could go to the next slide. Those components that I was focusing on are down here at the lower parts of the pathway. And I also circled here, for illustration, the extrinsic pathway. It turns out that the pathway can be activated by either one of two directions. And so I concentrated on the parts that were close to the common point after the fork.
So if you could, I think, advance one slide. If you concentrate on those components, a number of those components are ones which have been experimentally knocked out such as fibrinogen, prothrombin, and tissue factor. And if we go to the next slide, I have red arrows pointing to those components. And you see that they all fall in the area of the blood clotting cascade that I was specifically restricting my arguments to. And if you knock out those components, in fact, the blood clotting cascade is broken. So my discussion of irreducible complexity was, I tried to be precise, and my argument, my argument is experimentally supported...”
Factor V is proaccelerin. It doesn’t exist in the lamprey. Therefore, the system, as described by Behe, is not “irreducibly complex”.
QED