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To: metmom
And nobody is talking about replacing science education with religious instruction. ...

The whole crux of this issue is control over the public school system between the parents who want one thing, and the liberals and self-appointed elite who think that they know better what is good for everyone else, whether they like it or not and try to force it on the unwilling unwashed masses.

Nonsense.

The crux of the matter is fundamentalists want to censor or remove the theory of evolution from science classes because they think it is inconsistent with their particular religious beliefs.

They want to force their narrow religious interpretations on all students in the guise of, or instead of, science -- contrary to the constitution and case law.

183 posted on 01/21/2009 1:01:02 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman
Nonsense! And you know it!

"Intelligent Design theory is a branch of information science. It is based on the same mathematical principles that underly criminology (specifically in the area of solving crime), detection of insurance fraud, artificial intelligence, and other areas of scientific endeavor involving detecting the acts of "intelligent agents" in contrast with random events and "system noise".

ID theory as it applies to biology asks a number of fundamental and challenging questions that go right to the heart of some of the presuppositions underlying orthodox Darwinism.That is why ID theory has orthodox Darwinists responding like a hostile priesthood protecting their orthodoxy, rather than engaging in frank and open discussion."

A three pronged thrust:

Label: By calling it creationism, it gets lumped in with the creationist movement - genesis as literal history, 6-day creation 6000 year old earth, recent creationism movement.

Misinformation: They accuse the ID movement of not being real science because they claim it does not publish in peer reviewed journals. In spite of their best efforts to stonewall in this regard, ID theory is now widely in the peer-review regime. http://www.iscid.org is a good link in this regard.

Dodge: If all else fails, simply avoid responding to the difficult and scientifically challenging issues that intelligent design theory (as applied to orthodox Darwinism) is raising.

These dishonest and unethical tactics should have no place in our open and frank scientific era of 2002.

The problem is that the word Creationism has a nasty stigma. Label Intelligent Design theory creationism, and its opponents effectively dodge the need to address it. [LINK]

190 posted on 01/21/2009 1:11:30 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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