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To: Cvengr

Sir, I have had the extreme displeasure to read your tendentious posts. I am a Catholic Christian. I believe that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior and that I have no way to heaven and no salvation outside of Him. My sins are covered by His once for all oblation and satisfaction for them. Outside of Him, I have no worth in myself, beyond the fact that I am created by the living God, who has made all things good.

All that said, I am now in line to sit in the East in a Masonic Lodge. No one ever asked me whether I believed in Yahweh, Allah, or the Triune God. No one ever wondered whether I believed that Jesus Christ is one in substance with the Father and the Holy Spirit, and now that everybody in the Lodge (and a lot of Masons throughout my state) know it from personal testimony, their principal response is joy that I have every reasonable chance of fully pursuing my earthly pilgrimage to ultimate salvation, communion with the saints and to live forever in the presence of the living God.

So, according to you, my Lodge is exceptional, yes?


201 posted on 01/19/2009 8:50:51 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (Hypocrisy never bothers the hypocrite)
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To: BelegStrongbow
I rejoice that there are fellow believers in Christ in the Masonic community. I heartily concur with the statements of your first paragraph. I suspect from past close family members who had been part of the brotherhood that many believers had been in the lodges. I would concur that yours is probably exceptional.

I simply testify that when I have stated I believe in God through faith in Christ, I was denied any admittance into that organization, explicitly for that reason. Even moreso, repeated attacks upon my family, my profession, my marriage, my personal self, along with threats of physical harm and murder were par for the course by those with very close ties to the Masonic community.

Those same Masons who elevate their worldly positions by associations with those who brazenly commit criminal activity, promote homosexuality, adultery, fornication, theft, extortion, active liars, have sought every Machiavllian mechanism to advance their personal and community empires. Even with this said, their remained amongst them a deep rooted and personally seated animosity towards any and all things associated with those who think through faith in Christ.

In all these things, they generally are corrupt, having committed a handful of criminal acts, but then confess them amongst themselves, and satisfy their personal sense of justice by then performing what is right in their own eyes, only accepting the authority of Masonry, while even denying the Constitution of the United States as they hold office in our nation.

I have no doubt that the last several Presidents have been Masons, if not the majority of them. It is my duty to obey legitimate authority through faith in Christ. When posed by those who deny Him, and seek to any mechanism other than to glorify Him first, then my duty and allegiance is to remain faithful to God through faith in Christ first.

205 posted on 01/19/2009 9:26:50 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: BelegStrongbow

OUTSTANDING response.


231 posted on 01/20/2009 10:38:35 AM PST by OKIEDOC (I would rather be hung with a few brave conservatives than live a lifetime with cowardly liberals.)
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To: BelegStrongbow

Congratulations on being seated in the East. I know it is a long long journey, and lots of work. Best wishes for a successful year in the East.


238 posted on 01/21/2009 7:37:40 AM PST by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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To: BelegStrongbow

Congrats, just saw your post.

The absurd slanders evil people spew at masons makes me ill.

I strongly suspect they are not Christians, determined to make Christians look stupid and evil.


239 posted on 01/21/2009 7:49:51 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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