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Are Celebrities the New Monarchy?
Canada Free Press ^ | Friday, December 26, 2008 | By Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 01/16/2009 7:01:09 AM PST by Niuhuru

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To: dirtboy

By intellectual abilities I don’t mean Intellectul Abilities, but refer more to the ability to say..start a business and make it succeed or to spearhead an organization that does things for people.

For many retired athletes and actors, other people do the work that we commonly associate with them and there is an army of consultants ready to help them do it. But rarely is it due to thier own efforts.

Yes, we do treat athletes and actors with unwarranted respect. As our reliance on TV and the media increases, we tend to give story tellers (actors) more and more undue respect.

Athletes get a lot of respect for the simple reason that they gove people a lot of pleasure and there really is no other reason for it. We have pleasant memories of them and we equate that with gravitas. An error that you should correct in your own children and grand children, by the way.

The creds granted to actors by the left is astonishing. I resembles the vaunted role of storytellers in an oral society.


41 posted on 01/16/2009 8:15:54 AM PST by texmexis best (uency)
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To: dirtboy
>She still has residual celebrity... [?!]

Okay. I'm guessing
you are either a senior
or you're posting from

a time zone where folks
have started their evening drinks.
Have a nice weekend.

42 posted on 01/16/2009 8:21:46 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss
Okay. I'm guessing you are either a senior or you're posting from a time zone where folks have started their evening drinks. Have a nice weekend.

Go suck eggs. You can't even follow the line of discussion, so I wouldn't be so blithe in flinging insults.

43 posted on 01/16/2009 8:25:08 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: MEGoody
Basically, they do no more for us as individuals than a computer game, working in our flower gardens or a book - they distract us from real life for awhile. In that light, wouldn't you say that the worship of these individuals is a little misplaced?

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Yes. Worship is certainly misplaced, but there's nothing wrong with a little distraction once in a while. The American public, however, has gone completely overboard regarding celebrities and that is part of the motivation, it seems, for their desire to put Obama in the White House. The population at large has lost the ability to distinguish between the real and the imitation.

44 posted on 01/16/2009 8:30:34 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Vermont Lt

“There is a cold as steel aspect to those people. Not that they aren’t nice people, but there is something about them....”

That’s what makes them so successful. They’re tough as iron and cold as steel. It’s the self discipline that makes them what they are.

That’s the difference. All these Hollywood people don’t have self discipline.


45 posted on 01/16/2009 9:36:35 AM PST by Niuhuru (Fine, here's my gun, but let me give you the bullets first. I'll send them to you through the barrel)
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To: Niuhuru
That’s the difference. All these Hollywood people don’t have self discipline.

The ones who do are conservatives, except Heather Locklear. : )

46 posted on 01/16/2009 9:51:46 AM PST by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon drama at a time!)
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To: Niuhuru

Hollywood celebrities are a bunch of vapid, overrated meat-puppets. They can be and often are replaced by cartoons.


47 posted on 01/16/2009 10:00:05 AM PST by freepy smurf (I did not vote for McCain/Palin. I voted for Palin/McCain.)
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To: absolootezer0
maybe they can’t farm a field, but they inspire.

Rarely. And most of the time, when they do, they are inspiring people toward embracing leftist ideals.

Sorry, my disgust with Hollyweird in general is showing. But they've certainly earned it.

48 posted on 01/16/2009 12:07:28 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: dirtboy
Do you think the ability to sell is a useful or useless skill?

It's useful to those who stand to make money from the sale, of course. And it can be marginally useful to the customers buying something they need. (Frankly, they'd buy it without sales people making a pitch if they really need it.)

What Hollyweird is selling is pretty much useless. So that makes the salespeople pretty much useless as well.

49 posted on 01/16/2009 12:10:13 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: dirtboy
However, that does not change the fact that top actors and sports figures have highly useful skills as far as making a very good living.

So they are useful to themselves. I was talking usefulness to society.

Or should we leave it up to a government commission as to what they should be paid, given that the market obviously is wrong in determining their large paychecks?

LOL Untwist your panties, dear. I never said the government should get involved. I was lamenting the fact that so many Americans are such swooners over celebrities that they'd rather give them big incomes than give those incomes to people who do things that really matter. (But of course, you knew that.)

50 posted on 01/16/2009 12:13:26 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody
So they are useful to themselves. I was talking usefulness to society.

Liberals think guns are not useful to society. Lots of folks have different ideas of what is useful and what is not. At the end of the day, free markets have decided that being a top athelete or actor is pretty useful, given what they are paid.

I never said the government should get involved.

Nah, you're just the arbiter of usefulness because the markets are so worthless at making a proper determination of such. We need to set us a Usefulness Commission to make sure no one is overpaid for a skill deemed useless by such.

51 posted on 01/16/2009 12:44:56 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

When a lot of these celebs go bankrupt, they run to thier fans to help them.

They don’t get job training and build a resume and live quietly and then try to get back into films.

If the world fully collapsed and all people started out with what they had in their heads and on their resume, these celebs would starve.

Their skills are mainly art centered, not centered in a realistic job market. Remember, they have skilled people doing their daily chores, they don’t keep their own schedules and xome don’t know how to stay sober.


52 posted on 01/17/2009 5:19:33 PM PST by Niuhuru (Fine, here's my gun, but let me give you the bullets first. I'll send them to you through the barrel)
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To: dirtboy
At the end of the day, free markets have decided that being a top athelete or actor is pretty useful, given what they are paid.

That's true. Perhaps you missed the point I was making. It's a sad commentary on our society that we think these dolts are more useful to society than policemen, our military, teachers, etc.

Nah, you're just the arbiter of usefulness because the markets are so worthless at making a proper determination of such.

Okay, so you're agreeing with the 'masses' that the dolts are more useful to society than our military, policemen and teachers. Got it.

53 posted on 01/20/2009 9:08:00 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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