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Henderson, Rice Receive Call To Cooperstown
Baseball Hall of Fame ^ | January 12, 2009 | Unknown

Posted on 01/12/2009 11:24:22 AM PST by GreatOne

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Glad to see that Rice got in, and that Blyleven didn't. While I'm a Twins fan, I think that the stats geeks are out of whack. Crucial to any HOFer, particularly today's ilk, is how one felt when opening up a pack of baseball cards and getting their card. With Rice and Henderson, it's "Wow, great!" With Blyleven, it was "Meh." I don't believe that accumulation of career stats merits the Hall of Fame (Don Sutton being a particularly egregious example). Dawson also doesn't belong - too injury-plagued and take away 1987 and we're not even having this conversation.

I also think, seriously, that eveyone who left Henderson off their ballot should be prohibited from ever voting again. Ridiculous morons.

1 posted on 01/12/2009 11:24:24 AM PST by GreatOne
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It’s a travesty that 28 “sportswriters” did not vote for Rickey Henderson. They need to have their voting rights removed immediately. They probably cover east coast teams (like the Red Sux) and have no clue about players west of the Mississippi River.


2 posted on 01/12/2009 11:34:14 AM PST by DFG
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To: GreatOne

I wonder if Rickey Henderson will be the first person to induct himself into Cooperstown, and conduct his entire induction speech in the 3rd person.


3 posted on 01/12/2009 11:35:36 AM PST by VA_Gentleman ("There are sheep, and there are wolves. In the end, the wolves always win." - Col. Ripley, RIP)
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To: GreatOne

You mean Bert “Be Home” Blyleven?


4 posted on 01/12/2009 11:36:19 AM PST by HenpeckedCon (1/20/13 - Obama's Last Day!)
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To: GreatOne

How can they call it a hall of fame if the greatest player ever keeps getting passed over? I’m talking about Pete Rose, since Ty Cobb is already in.


5 posted on 01/12/2009 11:36:38 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: GreatOne

Glad to see that sportswriters finally got over their “He was meeeeean to me, waaahhh” feelings and voted Jim Rice into his proper spot in Cooperstown.


6 posted on 01/12/2009 11:37:58 AM PST by richmwill
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To: GreatOne

Well, I’ll disagree. I think Blyleven belongs. I didn’t collect or even look at baseball cards, I watched baseball.


7 posted on 01/12/2009 11:38:12 AM PST by SoDak (Molon Labe)
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They’ve been holding betting against Pete Rose for a long time. If there wasn’t all of that against him, I imagine he would have been inducted already.


8 posted on 01/12/2009 11:42:08 AM PST by wastedyears (In Canada, Santa says "Ho Ho, eh?")
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if the greatest player ever keeps getting passed over

Maybe if he was eligible, that wouldn't happen...

9 posted on 01/12/2009 11:43:16 AM PST by green iguana
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To: GreatOne

It seems that Blyleven is inching ever so closer to getting into the Hall. It’s a crying shame that he hasn’t been recognized so far. A truly great pitcher who had to play for years on some truly bad teams. He would have won at least 330 games if he had had some better run support.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/96851-why-bert-blyleven-belongs-in-the-hall-of-fame


10 posted on 01/12/2009 11:43:45 AM PST by Deo volente
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To: VA_Gentleman

Only Rickey understands Rickey!


11 posted on 01/12/2009 11:46:00 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Dixie Yooper

How can they call it a hall of fame if the greatest player ever keeps getting passed over? I’m talking about Pete Rose, since Ty Cobb is already in.

Pete Rose broke a rule agreed upon by the union in collective bargaining. No fraternization with gamblers!

Case closed.


12 posted on 01/12/2009 11:46:01 AM PST by stevecmd
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To: wastedyears

Ya think McGwire’s testimony in front of Congress hurt him with the voters?


13 posted on 01/12/2009 11:46:50 AM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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Pete Rose will get elected to the HOF by the veterans committee after he dies. Rose disgraced the game and should not be allowed to give an acceptance speech. Giving Rose the boot from baseball was one of the best moves ever made by a baseball commissioner. Wish we had an honorable man like Giamatti as commissioner now. Selig is the worst baseball commissioner of all time.


14 posted on 01/12/2009 11:48:05 AM PST by DFG
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Yeah, I have to wonder about the sanity of the 5% who didn’t vote for Ricky Henderson — but then I see that Babe Ruth and Willie Mays “only” received around 95% too, when they went in. GEESH..... if those 3 don’t automatically belong in the HofF then it’s hard to know who does.

I know some people just like to be contrarian, but who could really try to justify not voting Ricky Henderson into the HofF?????

I’m glad to see Jim Rice get in, finally (OK, biased Red Sox fan here). I know the arguments against, but still, for a decade he was the premier hitter in the American League and even if his career stats did not end up huge he was just a phenomenal hitter. Surly guy with reporters, yeah. Well, a lot of reporters probably deserve some surliness. :^)


15 posted on 01/12/2009 11:48:21 AM PST by Enchante (Bernie Madoff Learned His Ponzi-Investment Strategy from our Social Security System!!)
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Andre Dawson - aka: The Hawk. Hope he makes it in next year. Always a great player at the top of the HR list every season, a gold glover, and as far as I can remember, a good all around role-model. He never played on a WS team (because he stayed with the Cubs) but he OWNED the outfield at Wrigley!


16 posted on 01/12/2009 11:49:59 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: dfwgator

Let’s see what they do when Barry “Steroid” Bonds becomes eligilbe.


17 posted on 01/12/2009 11:50:20 AM PST by PurpleMan
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Ya think McGwire’s testimony in front of Congress hurt him with the voters?

See: bear, woods; Pope, Catholic.

18 posted on 01/12/2009 11:51:09 AM PST by TexasNative2000 (Everything Obama does is "appropriate", therefore, nothing he does is "inappropriate".)
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Wow...that came out of left field [grin].

Good. Both deserving.

19 posted on 01/12/2009 11:51:16 AM PST by Pharmboy (BHO: making death and taxes yet MORE certain...)
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To: GreatOne

As a major Red Sox fan during all of the Rice years, I do NOT think he deserved to be in the HOF. In fact, I think Fred Lynn belongs there before Rice.

Also, I don’t think Wade Boggs belongs, either, but that’s another discussion.

Rice had great talent, but never put himself out for the team. He was not a good clutch performer — not like Yaz, or Ortiz, or Manny, for instance. Rice could not bear down and deliver a hit or a sacrifice fly when the team absolutely needed it. He got his homers, and his singles, but I’ll bet that a disproportionately large number of his homers came with no men on base, or when the game was not on the line.

Rice made himself into an average left fielder — he began his career as a poor left fielder — as compared to the incomparable fielding of Lynn (and Yaz).

Rice’s career ended in a hurry, too. He never really worked hard on his skills — he was more interested in golf than baseball. And when his bat speed began to fade, his career crashed, seemingly overnight.

And don’t get me started on Boggs! You had to be at Fenway, not just reading stats, to realize that Boggs was a bum.


20 posted on 01/12/2009 11:51:41 AM PST by WL-law
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