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1 posted on 01/04/2009 3:26:14 PM PST by chevydude26
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"so therefore it was just a consequence that racists would choose the race neutral party [Republican] over the party of welfare..."

Huh? The racist are in the Democratic Party!

Why would anyone vote for the Democratic Party?

DEMOCRATS: Supported slavery
REPUBLICANS: Abolished slavery

DEMOCRATS: Created Jim Crow Laws
REPUBLICANS: Abolished Jim Crow Laws

DEMOCRATS: Voted barely 50% to pass Civil Rights Act of 1964
REPUBLICANS: Voted over 80% to pass Civil Rights Act of 1964

DEMOCRATS: Continue enslavement via the narcotic welfare plantation for votes
REPUBLICANS: Color blind and judge people by individual merit and effort.

The Democratic Party has a horrific history and continue 
that record even today. 

2 posted on 01/04/2009 3:34:36 PM PST by avacado
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The GOP did nothing racist...but there is no doubt Southern Dems left the Dem Party (Strom Thurmond) because of the civil rights legislation. Also, the South stopped voting Democratic because of it. As the years passed, the liberal Dems had little in common with Southerners who are mostly conservative. The South is not racist anymore than any other place I have lived...but decidedly more conservative.


3 posted on 01/04/2009 3:35:49 PM PST by bronxboy
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There were only two reasons white southerners ever voted Democrat to begin with; segregation and the Civil War.

Time passed and the Dems dumped segregation leaving no reason for them to vote Democrat


4 posted on 01/04/2009 3:37:28 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Why did the GOP have to go and run Wilford Brimley against Will Smith?)
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To: chevydude26

The southern strategy was based on a legitimate dislike of forced school busing, high crime, runaway welfare state and affirmative action (quotas). Just because the KKK also complains about those things dos not make all souterners racist.

What on earth is racist about being opposed to the atrocity called forced busing? The liberals cannot answer that question. Instead they try to mind read southern voters and assume they are racist. They see evidence of racism where there is none.

It is a vile, despicable act to accuse someone of racism without proof.


6 posted on 01/04/2009 3:47:29 PM PST by heye2monn
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Welcome to FR


8 posted on 01/04/2009 3:49:42 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Free Trade" = Fire Americans. Buy another company then fire more Americans.)
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Liberals call Nixon's original "southern strategy" - courting typical democrat southern strongholds in the 60's rascist because Nixon and the GOP appealed to their bigotry. That is a total lie. Basically, Nixon appealed to southern family values after the hippie, hate-America, hard left took over democrat party in 1968.

So over a period of time, these southern family value type voters gravitated to the GOP. The democrap party routinely runs on San Francisco values, anti-family, hate Christians, gays, anti-guns, high taxes and it just did not sit well with southerners who live the opposite.

Recently, the democrat party has gotten away with faking like they have conservative values, but they don't.

11 posted on 01/04/2009 3:51:56 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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People’s hearts change.

The Democratic Party has a horrific record on race, and its one they run away from every day. If I were Democrat I’d deny and run away from it too.

But once race was eliminated as a factor, many southernors simply joined the GOP because it was the stronger by far on national defense. If race is no longer an issue for you, and you’re anti-communist, and you’re strong on military defense, and you’re basically a constitutionalist, then there is little reason for you to remain in the Democratic Party.

Some of the old Dixie-crats left for the GOP, but most stayed behind. The Dems like to claim that the few crossed over because the GOP changed its position on race, but its the opposite. The GOP never changed, its right where it always was. The majority of the Dixiecrats stayed in the Democratic Party. The ones who left did so because they essentially adopted our view. Once race was no longer their defining issue, there were other much more important issues. Defense. Anti-communism. Constitutionalism.


14 posted on 01/04/2009 3:58:35 PM PST by marron
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but then somebody mentions kevin phillips and it seems his comments were pretty intentional...

That Phillips guy knew how to capitalize.

He could write the most outrageous trash and it was viewed as valid.

Simply because he could write properly in English.

Amazing, huh?

16 posted on 01/04/2009 4:08:43 PM PST by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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what about kevin phillips comments ?? nixon’s strategist

“”From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don’t need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That’s where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.”- Ken Philips, Nixon’s campaign strategist, in 1970”

i found out he’s not a real conservative...and I know when Mehlman apologized for the southern strategy he wasn’t even alive during that time

I posted your guys comments but they are still harping on phillips’ comments


17 posted on 01/04/2009 4:13:06 PM PST by chevydude26
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Kevin Phillips wrote a book on the "Emerging Conservative Majority" or some such, but he was never much of a conservative. More a Nixonian centrist I'd say. The Southern Strategy played on the federalistic sentiments of "States' Rights" in the South and built on the cracking of the Solid South by Goldwater in 1964. The fact is that States' Rights in the South often had to do with resistence to racial integration, although it was not that alone.

Ironically, The GOP never had much of a chance to maximize the strategy because in 1968 George Wallace grabbed a bunch of southern votes, and by 1972 it was not that relevant as Nixon demolished Goerge McGovern nationwide.

19 posted on 01/04/2009 4:28:39 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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Not racist, just deceitful, as the GOP never carried out its pledges. Too many Democrats from everywhere to stop them even had they been willing to do as they said


24 posted on 01/04/2009 7:12:04 PM PST by Theodore R. (GWB is neither "compassionate nor conservative.")
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