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To: reasonisfaith

Hmmm..., I just saw this now... I must have missed it earlier...

You asked — “How great is your desire, or your need, to try as hard as you possibly can to convince people that Obama is a natural born citizen? That is, if you were to rate the magnitude of this desire of yours on a scale of 1 to 10, what would it be?”

I don’t want to convince anyone of whether Obama is one thing or another. That’s not been my issue. My issue has been that there needs to be proof to take to court and have it judged in a court and then we say we *know* what the situation is.

In other words, we act on what we *know* and not on what we *suppose*. If someone actually *knew* what the situation was we wouldn’t be talking about this whole issue. It’s the very fact that one does not “know”.

But, by the same token, the other Presidents (most of them) have not had to bring out a birth certificate for examination in a court. Now, maybe there was one or two or more who had to submit one to a court — I really don’t know. Perhaps someone can point me to another President who had to do this.

If there is one — then — that one could be used as a “precedent” in this matter. But, unless I’m mistaken, I don’t think you’ll find a President where he was required to show a birth certificate to a court of law to verify his eligibility.

Please..., give me a precedent, using that other President, whomever he was.

THEN — we *might* have a handle on something...

To answer you more specifically — directly to the question — I’m not trying to prove that he is qualified and I’m not trying to prove he’s not qualified. I’m asking for the proof, one way or the other...


232 posted on 01/02/2009 4:35:47 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler
But, by the same token, the other Presidents (most of them) have not had to bring out a birth certificate for examination in a court.

That's because no past president had his past so tightly sealed from public scrutiny. All past presidents had long-time family friends to vouch for the credibility of the family and candidate. Most presidential candidates had their family past very well documented, because they came from public families.

It's only Obama who has locked up all his childhood records, has no past friendships that he's willing to admit to, had no family that he allowed to talk to the press.

-PJ

662 posted on 01/02/2009 6:44:37 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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