If we’re past the point of allegations — how come I don’t see any court orders... :-)
You see..., for me to be past the point of allegations is for a court order to come down and say it in the authority of the court. Absent that, it’s still in the realm of allegations.
And if the Supreme Court decides that Obama is eligible — I have already “wondered” (in previous posts) if that will finally settle it for people here. And I find the very odd idea that people will only accept a Supreme Court ruling if it goes the way they think it should go — according to their own opinion, here and now.
Now, that doesn’t sound like we’re following our own “system” (by the Constitution that gives us that Supreme Court) if we don’t accept what they decide... It’s very strange for people who claim to be Constitutional, to abandon the ruling of the Supreme Court if it’s not according to their opinion... LOL..
I meant that we are past allegations in the sense that the argument being made is bsed upon something that is not contested (Obama having duel citizenship at birth).
And why do you think that people have to agree with every Court decision. We have had Supreme Courtdecisions that have even contradicted (or overtuned) other decisions. So how do you agree with both?
You need to read some US history about public pressure, civil disobedience, and investigations of "closed issues."
I mentioned abortion earlier. Anyone who's been alive the last 25 years knows that a supreme court action is not the final word on everything.
It wouldn’t be the first ruling from the Supreme Court to which folks around here reject. Can you say “abortion”?
It will for most, IF the court actually looks at the merits of the case, and not just "standing" of those bringing the case. In particular if they, or a lower court, orders a certified copy to be provided by the State of HI to the court or it's clerk, and on that basis decides Obama is eligible. If they decide there is not enough evidence to warrant ordering the BC, that's another issue, if the duck, bob and weave to avoid making a decision on the issue itself, then no, it will not satisfy folks. And legally it will not settle anything. Only an actual ruling will do that. Even a ruling that there is not sufficient cause to order up a BC would not be the final word, because additional evidence could be found at any time, and that could be sufficient to order production of the Bc.
But after all, what's so hard about producing a BC? Most of us have done it multiple times. When we got our driver's license, when we entered the military (although one need not be citizen, one needs either a US BC or a proof of legal residence). Then again to get a job, maybe several times for that too. And so on.
Most major party nominees have well documented histories. They release their college transcripts, their medical records, and even their tax statements. The One has done none of that? Why? Why did the media not clamor for them to be produced as they did for Bush (I & II), McCain, and even Al Gore and Ketchup Kerry. (although they weren't very diligent in asking for his military records).