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To: smokingfrog

A shotgun is an awfully specialized choice for a tactical weapon. Most people would be better served by a semi-auto rifle. I’d say an FAL or AR-15 if you want something lighter, but hey, whatever floats your boat...


10 posted on 12/28/2008 3:51:14 PM PST by Mogwai (Palin/Santorum 2012!)
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To: Mogwai
A shotgun is an awfully specialized choice for a tactical weapon.

I disagree. The 12 guage shotgun is the most versatile weapon one can reasonably have. With it you can take any game in the lower 48, although it wouldn't be my first choice for large bears. But it would work.

You can bring down any bird from a snipe to a goose with one.

It'll take serious mankilling loads like 00 and 000 buckshot, and a Federal Copper Solid slug in 12 guage will pass through Class IIA Kevlar like it wasn't there.

You can use it to stop a riot with birdshot, specialized less-than-lethal loads or drop a bad guy with a 1 oz. lead slug moving at 900 fps from 75 yards.

Hell, there are even shells that will turn your trusty shotgun into a flamethrower.

And of all the pump action shotguns available I think that the Mossberg 500 and 590 series represent one of the best values on the market today.

Just my opinion of course. Your mileage may vary.

Happy New Year.

L

14 posted on 12/28/2008 3:59:45 PM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: Mogwai

Depends on how far away the neighbors are and how fond you are of them.

I’ve fired an FAL and can say that the recoil is less and follow up shots are faster than my with Mossberg 500. On the other hand, the muzzle an FAL enters the room about 2 or 3 steps ahead of you and doesn’t do corners nearly as well as a shotgun with an 18.5 20 inch barrel. At home defense ranges a shotgun packs a lot of power in a light, maneuverable package.

If I didn’t live in an apartment though and conceivably might have to engage targets beyond 20 yards AK or AR might be my choice for home defense.


17 posted on 12/28/2008 4:05:46 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: Mogwai
A shotgun is an awfully specialized choice for a tactical weapon

Maybe. - A long time ago, I watched a buddy chalk up kill after kill with one during an ambush.

It was close quarters and we were withdrawing, but he nailed more than a half dozen, and I'm not exaggerating one bit.

I'd say it would be great for the home if you had no problem getting to it. - and perhaps no kids, either.

Thanks for your post.

19 posted on 12/28/2008 4:12:32 PM PST by bill1952 (McCain and the GOP were worthless)
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To: Mogwai
As one firearms store owner put it...

A 12 gage pump offers a unique form of home defense. To a would-be bugler sneaking into a home, the sound of the pump-slide being racked, and round going into the chamber says "get out" like nothing else. And hey, if they don't take the hint, it will get the job done - the boom of it firing may be the last sound they ever hear.

46 posted on 12/28/2008 4:59:34 PM PST by CodeMasterPhilzar
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