Posted on 12/28/2008 3:19:57 PM PST by smokingfrog
North Haven, CT (January 2009)—From U.S. Service men and women around the world to law enforcement agencies across the country, Mossberg shotguns have experienced nearly four decades of combat and combat readiness in the hands of armed forces world-wide. Enjoying a long-standing relationship with the U.S. armed forces, Mossberg is the manufacturer of the only 12 gauge pump action shotgun ever to pass the stringent U.S. Military Mil-Spec 3443 standard.
Now, for 2009 Mossberg will make available select 590A1 models to the general public. All models will come standard with heavy-walled barrels, metal trigger guards and safety buttons in a durable Parkerized finish. A full range of sighting options will be available in front bead, ghost ring rear or 3-dot configurations. Several variations of stocks will also be available with wood, synthetic, speed feed and adjustable aluminum. All 590A1 models come drilled and tapped from the factory making it easy to mount a Picatinny rail, scope base or other optic options. Other accessories available for the 590A1 are heat shields, Picatinny rails as well as orange buttstocks and forearms for training purposes.
The Mossberg shotgun has a proven place not only in the field but also for home/personal defense.
Probably because they're noobs and are standing wrong, stance being something that is usually very easy to figure out.
Stock welded to cheek shoulder forward
A red dot or a Holo sight could be very useful in rapid aquisition, particularly at night
Grateful for your expertise.
Do these rounds kill a crook at close range?
There is a Russian made Saiga shotgun which feeds from a box magazine, but it's a semi-automatic not a pump action like the Mossberg.
The reason, just my opinion here, that more of that type aren't made is weight and cost. The Saiga design is basically a modified Kalishnikov sized up to accept 12 gauge rounds.
Also, once again strictly my opinion, putting the weight of the cartridges forward as in a tube fed design helps to control recoil.
It also makes the weapon more slim and improves handling over a magazine fed design.
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Yeahbut they can’t do that with a pistol grip.
Hell yes! I wouldnt want to be on the other end of them at 50 yds.
How big is your house?
Bird shot at 25 ft is gonna leave a 3 in wound opening “on the front”
Dump the solo pistol grip idea
I don't have anything against pistol grips per se, but I have to have a stock to be able to hit anything. And a wise old man once told me "It's only the hits that count."
If you're in the market for a shotgun, go with the standard 590 or 500A type configuration. The 500A will be a bit less expensive, but it won't have all the bells and whistles of the 590.
But I think either one will serve you well.
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You got me off the pistol grip right off. I wasn’t sold on it, anyway, just curious. I have two rifles and have had rifles since the age of 12 and have more handguns. It’s shotguns I have almost no experience with.
LOL! Those poor rats we hunted all those years ago! I had my .22 rifle, the boys used shotguns.
And actually it was too dark to see rats and we basically just shot at trash in the dump. That’s where I got to fire shotguns a couple times, long time ago and far away.
Just bear in mind that the heavier the payload in your shotgun and the more powder, the greater the recoil will be.
3” magnum 00 buck can really suck for the shooter on a pump action gun.
On a semi auto were some of the blast is directed into cycling the action it is manageable (with a stock).
Semi autos can be more finicky than a good ol pump but I am more than pleased with the saiga as a defense shotgun(its like the revolver vs semi argument)
I also like that I can disarm the saiga by just removing the mag
I have seen a few FTE’s on the saiga and this typically has to do with the shooter doing what those girls were doing in the vids. Failing to weld the stick to the cheek and putting the shoulder forward.
This is the equivalent of what they call in semi auto pistols “Limp wristing”
But even if that happens,its faster to clear than it is to rack the slide on a pump
You’re right, I need a stock. I just thought it looked tough, but it’s not practical and possibly not useful.
A rifle is to hit things with when I’m shooting especially lousy with the handguns. Why torment myself further with a pistol grip shotgun.
Like semi auto handguns are to the revolver.
> I think it was in case there was water in the barrel it wont explode when you shoot it. I compared one side by side to a 590 and it was pretty much the same shotgun.
That makes better sense. Thanks!
The sound of a shell going into a shotgun OUGHT to clear the room regardless. An unarmed bugler has no incentive to stay.
If it doesn’t, you are probably dealing with an ARMED and determined thug, sho is now waiting for you in the dark, and who knows what door you have to come through. You are just asking to be shot.
Happily, my kid’s bedroom can be covered from mine - so I have no reason to go looking. Just wait with my .44 magnum carbine...if they come on after hearing the bullet chambered (similar to a shotgun), then I NEED to kill them.
If my kids were on the far side of the house, then I’d have to assume the risk. Still, entering a room with the barrel up would be like shouting, “Shoot me!”
A double action pistol would at least allow me to enter without warning them I’m armed. Held at the hip, it is easy to shoot (if you’ve practiced it) and hard to grab.
The 590A1 is all-steel, from the safety(weakest part) to the entire trigger housing.
The USMC has always had a fetish for shotguns that work, and the 590A1 is the only type to meet all the requirements for them. Quite a feat considering the competitors.
I think too many people have watched way too many pulp cop and cowboy shows on TV.
None of them legitimately deal with home burglary issues, since they do not yield the content that creates large viewing audiences. Stereotypical responses such as yours are the result.
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