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To: Red_Devil 232

Grandpa followed him around, so self defense isn’t much of a defense here, is it?
I wonder why the mother didn’t have them, but placed them with an 80 yo couple?, wow, the kids must have worn them out.
I wonder if this is a case of the mother hiding them to punish the father, and then him finding them and getting killed for trying to see his kids.


12 posted on 12/21/2008 4:45:49 AM PST by DeLaine (You can't make up anything anymore. The world itself is a satire. All you're doing is recording it.)
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To: DeLaine
Grandpa followed him around, so self defense isn’t much of a defense here, is it? I wonder why the mother didn’t have them, but placed them with an 80 yo couple?, wow, the kids must have worn them out. I wonder if this is a case of the mother hiding them to punish the father, and then him finding them and getting killed for trying to see his kids.

1.)Grandpa didn't follow him around. The guy was there without permission which effectively means, in a lot of states, that he was breaking and entering. He pushed Grandpa out of the way when Grandpa tried to stop him from coming in. Grandpa tried to get him to leave peacefully but daddy wanted to take the children and got physical with grandpa by striking him in the chest. I have a pace maker and if any a**hat hits me in the chest they are also going to be shot.

2.)The mother IS living with granparents. The article clearly states that she has been staying there "with her children for about 5 months" while in a divorce proceeding.

If this guy had a problem with the custody, of if his wife acted unlawfully he should have gone to court. In most states his actions would be considered kidnapping. I know, they are his children also but you don't have the right to go into your ex-wife's residence and forcibly take the kids. Grandpa acted within the law IMO.

19 posted on 12/21/2008 5:40:10 AM PST by calex59
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Go back and read the story,
52 posted on 12/21/2008 7:53:33 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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