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Obama Left With Little Time To Curb Global Warming
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081214/ap_on_sc/global_warming_obama ^ | Dec. 14, 2008 | SETH BORENSTEIN

Posted on 12/14/2008 1:30:26 PM PST by FreeManWhoCan

WASHINGTON – When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore. Now it is a ticking time bomb that President-elect Barack Obama can't avoid.

*Now it is a ticking time bomb that President-elect Barack Obama can't avoid.* *Now it is a ticking time bomb that President-elect Barack Obama can't avoid.*

Since Clinton's inauguration, summer Arctic sea ice has lost the equivalent of Alaska, California and Texas. The 10 hottest years on record have occurred since Clinton's second inauguration. Global warming is accelerating. Time is close to running out, and Obama knows it.

"The time for delay is over; the time for denial is over," he said on Tuesday after meeting with former Vice President Al Gore, who won a Nobel Peace Prize for his work on global warming. "We all believe what the scientists have been telling us for years now that this is a matter of urgency and national security and it has to be dealt with in a serious way."

But there are powerful political and economic realities that must be quickly overcome for Obama to succeed. Despite the urgency he expresses, it's not at all clear that he and Congress will agree on an approach during a worldwide financial crisis in time to meet some of the more crucial deadlines.

Obama is pushing changes in the way Americans use energy, and produce greenhouse gases, as part of what will be a massive economic stimulus. He called it an opportunity "to re-power America."

After years of inaction on global warming, 2009 might be different. Obama replaces a president who opposed mandatory cuts of greenhouse gas pollution and it appears he will have a willing Congress....

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Weather
KEYWORDS: agenda; bho2008; bhoenvironment; globalwarming; greens; obama; ossociatedpress; outrage; swindle
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To: FreeManWhoCan
I love it. Between the bailouts and the sinking economy, there won't be any money credit left for these bullshit items like globull warming and free health care.

Gonna rebuild the infrastructure with what again???

21 posted on 12/14/2008 2:01:14 PM PST by Normal4me
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To: SkyDancer
"Why doesn't he just go down to the sea and put his hand out and stop all the warming and all "

Better yet....command the sun to produce sunspots...

None yet for the 24th cycle...precursor to 400 year long ice age....

enjoy

22 posted on 12/14/2008 2:10:13 PM PST by spokeshave (0bambi wants to kill babies and raise taxes, Sarah wants to raise babies and kill taxes)
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To: FreeManWhoCan

How many nuclear weapons have to be detonated to send enough dust into the upper atmosphere to reduce temperatures by one degree?


23 posted on 12/14/2008 2:11:22 PM PST by dbz77
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To: BookmanTheJanitor
These global warming (I thought it was ‘climate change’ now) alarmists are realizing that people are waking up to their scam and are going for broke before their jig is up.

The jig's up - for all but the most liberal nut cases.

Global Warming has been added to the dust bin of fail liberal freak outs: The Population Bomb, The Club of Rome, Alar, New Ice Age, etc. Good riddance.

24 posted on 12/14/2008 2:13:35 PM PST by GOPJ (There are no "tough" issues - just "tough" political consequences.)
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To: dbz77
How many nuclear weapons have to be detonated to send enough dust into the upper atmosphere to reduce temperatures by one degree?

Oh right - forgot. Nuclear Winter is another discredited liberal freak idea...

25 posted on 12/14/2008 2:14:44 PM PST by GOPJ (There are no "tough" issues - just "tough" political consequences.)
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To: FreeManWhoCan

June 28, 2006 Neal Boortz published an article on his internet site describing what a phoney reporter this guy is. It just confirms what everyone knew, AP HAS NO SHAME!


26 posted on 12/14/2008 2:15:01 PM PST by Melchior
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To: FreeManWhoCan

if Obama simply stalls for about four years he will have ‘solved’ global warming (since it gets colder each year and another four years of increased cooling will make the issue simply fade away without an apology from algore)


27 posted on 12/14/2008 2:17:53 PM PST by bpjam (GOP is 3 - 0 in elections after Nov 4th. You Can Smell the Rally !!!)
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To: FreeManWhoCan

Obama has to act fast, before it becomes so obvious that global warming is a scam by the left to grab more power and money that there are no rubes left.


28 posted on 12/14/2008 2:21:05 PM PST by kennedy (No relation to Teddy.)
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To: GOPJ
Nuclear Winter is another discredited liberal freak idea...
Discredited by whom ?

Unlike global warming, nuclear winter theory is based on the soundest of sciences.
29 posted on 12/14/2008 2:22:41 PM PST by dbz77
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To: BookmanTheJanitor
Actually, the people ranting about “global warming” have switched to “climate change” because they know or sense it is going to be difficult to make the case that the environment is definitely getting hotter. So, in anticipation of evidence going against them, they've switched to “climate change” and are arguing that even very cold years “prove” man has damaged the environment.
30 posted on 12/14/2008 2:24:39 PM PST by utahagen
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To: FreeManWhoCan

In 1993, there were computer projections of what unchecked global warming would be in “the future”, the “future being 2000, 2005, 2008, etc. I have every reason to believe that those projections turned out to be wildly wrong. Does anyone have access to what the projections were that Alogre, the UN and nasa cited in the 90’s to justify there conclusions? What exactly were their predictions back then?


31 posted on 12/14/2008 2:30:27 PM PST by uscabjd ( a)
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To: spokeshave

“Better yet....command the sun to produce sunspots...

None yet for the 24th cycle...precursor to 400 year long ice age....

enjoy”

I told a libdolt I know about this. Showed him www.spaceweather.com His response? That was fake data produced by NASA because NASA is owned by the oil companies. No, I’m not kidding. Not one bit.

This is the level of STUPIDITY we are up against.

BTW, I just looked at him and said, “You really are a moron, aren’t you”? Unsurprisingly, he’s stopped trying to foist his left wing econut garbage onto me. (We have a mutual friend, which is the only reason I ever encounter him anymore.)


32 posted on 12/14/2008 2:40:02 PM PST by piytar
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To: SECURE AMERICA
My comment on this article is HORSE SHIT...

I have a brilliant idea!! Let's tax cow farts!!! That will solve everything.

33 posted on 12/14/2008 2:40:28 PM PST by dearolddad
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To: dbz77

“Unlike global warming, nuclear winter theory is based on the soundest of sciences.”

It sure looked like it, but it is garbage. The first cracks appeared when someone took a look at the “science” they were using, plugged in how many nukes have been tested above ground, and concluded that their models showed that we should have been in the middle of a “nuclear winter” already.

Here’s a good summary: http://telicthoughts.com/political-science/

They’ve spun the theories now to say that the “nuclear winter” would actually be cause by burning cities putting too much soot into the air. Hmm, does anyone remember reading about a “bombing winter” caused by the allies leveling of a huge chunk of Europe?


34 posted on 12/14/2008 2:49:04 PM PST by piytar
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To: FreeManWhoCan

Not so much as does he have the time, does he have the means?

The whole complex of factors that affect temperatures of the land, the sea and the atmosphere is thus far not well mapped out, and of those factors that have been identified, most do not have any real effect on either warming or cooling in isolation.

Carbon dioxide, which makes up 0.0314% of the atmosphere by volume, is greedily absorbed by green growing plants, because they are living at near starvation levels for this vital plant food. The amount of CO2 added to the atmosphere, by ALL man-made sources, amounts to perhaps three percent of ALL the CO2 that is given up by every other process going on here on earth at any given time.

Controlling CO2 is not going to affect climate in any way.

You want a REAL green revolution? Use methods to capture and concentrate CO2 from factory smokestacks, cooling and compressing it down into dry ice or liquid CO2, then use this supercritical CO2 liquid as an injection fluid to flush residual hydrocarbons from oil wells which have “run dry”. The CO2 runs through the substrata of rock, mostly silicates and sulfates, converting the existing layers of rock to carbonate rock, leaving the sulfate ions and silica ions to complete the job of releasing the trapped petroleum. These released stores of petroleum refill the underground reservoir, and additional amounts of petroleum may be recovered.

There are already greenhouses in existence that use hydroponics to grow plants, why not take some of this captured CO2 and use it to enrich the atmosphere so the plant growth is accelerated to its maximum? Or other means of reclaiming the CO2, by using it to charge aqueous algae gardens, to assure maximum growth potential for various algae cultures, some of which produce hydrocarbons directly, others of which produce various organic products and may be scaled up to industrial level.

There are hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of “green jobs”. Just not “green” in the way that the environmentalists seem to think. It is our DUTY to provide for and accelerate the growth of green growing plant and microbial cultures, to the extent we are capable.

And that, dear children, shall require the production of as much CO2 as we can possibly get our hands on.


35 posted on 12/14/2008 2:50:49 PM PST by alloysteel (Molon labe! Roughly translated, "Come and take them!")
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To: FreeManWhoCan

“The time for delay is over; the time for denial is over,”

Incredible — here we are with one of the coldest and worst ice storm in memory, snow in Houston and New Orleans and these idiots are talking about “denial”. They are completely delusional, living in a suicidal neverland.

My fondest wish is for a similar ice storm in washington on inauguration day!!!


36 posted on 12/14/2008 2:51:02 PM PST by aquila48
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To: FreeManWhoCan

This is a link to a 30-year graph of global sea ice. The top line is the total amount of sea ice on any given day, and the bottom (red) line is the deviation from the 1979 - 2000 average for that day (called the global sea ice “anomaly”).

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg

You can see that sea ice declined for several years until 2007, but it is clearly recovering.

Most importantly, global sea ice today is AT the 1979 - 2000 average. So when people tell you about those Californias worth of ice that we have lost, send them this graph and ask them how it is possible that we lost all that ice, and we are still AT the 1979 - 2000 average for today.

Better yet, ask them to guess how much lower, in percentage terms, global sea ice today is, compared to the 1979 - 2000 average. After all the misinformation they have read in the media, they will likely say 20% or 30% or more. You can easily win money betting on statistics like this!


37 posted on 12/14/2008 2:59:27 PM PST by edwinland ("Barack Obama loves the future because that's where all his accomplishments are." - David Brooks)
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To: Normal4me

From the article:

“Ironically, 2008 is on pace to be a slightly cooler year in a steadily rising temperature trend line. Experts say it’s thanks to a La Nina weather variation. While skeptics are already using it as evidence of some kind of cooling trend, it actually illustrates how fast the world is warming.”

Oh. So if it gets cooler, it actually illustrates how fast the world is warming. Well, if you say so...


38 posted on 12/14/2008 3:00:01 PM PST by RFH
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To: FreeManWhoCan

Al Gore says that the polar ice cap will be completely gone in 5 years!
Click on the image above to see the video where he says it!

39 posted on 12/14/2008 3:03:01 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: FreeManWhoCan

I am not sure how many inaccuracies there are in this article, but I am leaning towards everything he says. Geez do some fact check before posting your rants son.


40 posted on 12/14/2008 3:07:24 PM PST by redangus
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