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Movie Recommendation- Sophie Scholl The Final Days

Posted on 12/11/2008 6:58:53 AM PST by mel

Sophie Scholl was executed by guillotine by Third Reich for her Hitler resistance activities. She was found guilty of distributing leaflets at college and for this she was killed. This is a dramatization of that event, it is a movie that will not leave you and will have you thinking about it for days after viewing. I highly recommend this film.


TOPICS: Arts/Photography
KEYWORDS: hero; hitler; nazi; nazis; reich; scholl; sophiescholl; ww2
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To: mel
I just saw this about five nights ago...brilliant stuff. The tone is just right, almost documentary, yet the tension becomes almost unbearable. And the depiction of Freisler, which might seem over the top, is quite consistent with accounts of the period, maybe even understated.

Two thumbs way the hell up.

21 posted on 12/11/2008 8:25:52 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: mel
Thanks for the recommendation.

It won't be the first time I was introduced to Great films on WWII on FR, that I would otherwise probably never would of seen. Others;

LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL 1998
(Italian: La vita è bella)
Do NOT watch it in English. You will enjoy it much more in Italian. The subtitles are easy to follow.

Trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBfjzzAVjWo

And

DOWNFALL 2004

22 posted on 12/11/2008 8:34:26 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Petronski
And the depiction of Freisler, which might seem over the top, is quite consistent with accounts of the period, maybe even understated.

Freisler was over the top in real life. But he got his just desserts in the end.

23 posted on 12/11/2008 8:44:14 AM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: NavyCanDo

I wonder if the actor who portrayed Hitler in Downfall said in the studio cafeteria, “They lose me right after the bunker scene.”


24 posted on 12/11/2008 8:46:43 AM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: dfwgator

I don’t think he got his just deserts at all. Justice demanded a public trial and a gallows, not accidental death in an air raid.


25 posted on 12/11/2008 8:47:43 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: wagglebee

You think Nazism is a clear and present danger. Thanks for the insight.

Perhaps you can do us a favor and provide a list of anti-communist films and anti-Jihadist films. Then we can see which are available on Net-Flix. If any were shown at “a theatre near you” or on TV, they didn’t receive much advertising.

I liked “The Path to 9/11.” Too bad it was shown once and locked away. Contrary to your assertions, it was not about Nazi terrorists. I suppose you could say it all stems from original sin. Ah yes, the big picture. But sometimes smaller pictures are useful. For example, you wouldn’t want to bomb the wrong target.


26 posted on 12/11/2008 8:48:46 AM PST by ChessExpert (The Dow was at 12,400 when Democrats took control of Congress. What is it today?)
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To: Petronski

Nah, I think Freisler would have relished a public trial.


27 posted on 12/11/2008 8:48:56 AM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: Petronski

The other thing about Freisler is that like a lot of Nazis, he started out as a Communist. Hitler would refer to him as “that old Bolshevik.”


28 posted on 12/11/2008 8:50:10 AM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: ChessExpert
You think Nazism is a clear and present danger. Thanks for the insight.

I never said that.

I suppose you could say it all stems from original sin.

I didn't say that either.

Perhaps you should brush up on your reading comprehension.

29 posted on 12/11/2008 8:54:11 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: dfwgator
Nah, I think Freisler would have relished a public trial.

Without a gavel? Without the silly robes? With American MPs there to shut him up?

I doubt it.

30 posted on 12/11/2008 9:05:40 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: wagglebee

“Perhaps you should brush up on your reading comprehension.”

Perhaps you should say what you mean so others don’t have to guess.


31 posted on 12/11/2008 9:16:24 AM PST by ChessExpert (The Dow was at 12,400 when Democrats took control of Congress. What is it today?)
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To: mel
“After the first 5-6 minutes of the movie, I thought oh this is another snoozer”

My Wife - who is turned off by historical docudramas felt the same way about Downfall when I first played it. At the beginning of the film she picked up the newspaper, a sure sign she will not be interested in the movie. Within the first few minutes she was drawn into the film. Before it was over with she was so choked-up and teary eyed, she could not talk.

32 posted on 12/11/2008 9:25:47 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: wagglebee
I wrote:
You think Nazism is a clear and present danger. Thanks for the insight.

You responded:
I never said that.

But you pretty much did say that. This is the thread:

Speaking sarcastically, I wrote:
But don’t be fooled, the Nazi threat is a clear and present danger. (s)

You responded:
you would realize that Nazism, communism and Islamofascism all emanate from the same evil source. And that means that it is a clear and present danger.

Given the context, the antecedent to “it” (in your last quote) is Nazism, and you state that it (Nazism) is a clear and present danger.

33 posted on 12/11/2008 9:33:44 AM PST by ChessExpert (The Dow was at 12,400 when Democrats took control of Congress. What is it today?)
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To: NavyCanDo

Wow, i will get that one next.


34 posted on 12/11/2008 9:43:47 AM PST by mel
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To: mel

Thanks for the recommendation. I will try to get this film while my son is home from college for Christmas.


35 posted on 12/11/2008 9:53:46 AM PST by kalee
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To: mel
The scene of the Goebbles children being killed, left this big guy with a lump in my throat.
36 posted on 12/11/2008 10:10:56 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: ChessExpert
You You have raised a question that has bothered me for a long time. Back in the 1960's, while the US was fighting a Cold War with the East Bloc as well as a hot war in Vietnam, I began to wonder why Hollywood was issuing so many films about World War II and so few about the contemporary conflicts. Sure, "The Longest Day," "Operation Crossbow," and "The Great Escape" were good movies, but the Third Reich was defunct, and Germany was now our NATO ally. .

Movies which did address the Cold War, such as "Fail Safe," "The Bedford Incident," "Dr. Strangelove," and "Ice Station Zebra" tended to portray the threat of nuclear annihilation as being far worse than the threat of Communism. Even spy films seemed to shy away from the East-West conflict as the decade wore on. By the end of the 1960’s, for example, James Bond was matching wits with gangsters instead of the KGB.

One notable exception to this trend was “Dr. Zhivago,” which provided an unfavorable portrayal of Soviet Communists. This film, which I saw in Hollywood in August of 1966, soon after it opened, went a long way toward satisfying my desire at the time to see a film that would take on the villains of the day.

I am hoping that anti-Communist literary classics, such as Darkness at Noon by Arthur Koestler, Witness by Whittaker Chambers, and Assignment in Utopia by Eugene Lyons will some day be made into movies.

37 posted on 12/11/2008 10:24:52 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

Communists may not run Hollywood, but they should be very happy with the way it has been run.


38 posted on 12/11/2008 11:00:49 AM PST by ChessExpert (The Dow was at 12,400 when Democrats took control of Congress. What is it today?)
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To: ChessExpert

Oh, but I think they do run Hollywood, maybe not card carrying but definitely there.


39 posted on 12/11/2008 11:18:42 AM PST by mel
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To: ChessExpert

I didn’t even understand the film as simply about Nazism, but to me it was about free speech. I know I am way off base here, but to my mind, I kept thinking of the Fairness Doctrine while viewing the film. I felt the film was painting a much broader picture than simply talking about the Third Reich as it was about freedom and dignity of life.
The reason I joined Netflix, is because there are wonderful films like this one, that are a challenge to get at the local Blockbuster. I think there are a lot of lessons and inspirations in this film not simply thinking it is a anti-Nazi film.
Hollywood glorifies communists just waiting for Castro’s film to arrive after he is gone. I am sure it will be another one like that idiotic Motorcycle Diaries. People are so stupid, they now believe he is some kind of folk hero


40 posted on 12/11/2008 11:24:36 AM PST by mel
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