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That dog hunts? Yes, poodles can make good hunting dogs, too
bnd. ^ | Dec. 10, 2008

Posted on 12/10/2008 7:28:56 PM PST by JoeProBono

PRIOR LAKE, Minn. -- A rooster pheasant winged high overhead in the cobalt sky, several blasts from a shotgun interrupted its flight and the bird somersaulted into thick grass. "Back," Libbe Erickson told her hunting dog, Rider, and he rocketed into the brush. Moments later Rider returned, pheasant in mouth. "Good dog," she said, taking the bird. Nothing unusual here on a glorious fall day in Minnesota - except Erickson's dog is a poodle. A cream-colored, fluffy poodle.

And nearby, friend Lin Gelbmann's silver poodle, Cache, with an even fluffier hairdo, also retrieved downed birds dropped by a bevy of shooters.

Hunting poodles?

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TOPICS: Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Sports
KEYWORDS: doggieping; dogs; hunting; poodles
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Hunting poodles?

Yes, poodles. Those prissy, pampered, coiffed canines usually associated more with fur coats, diamonds and penthouses than blaze-orange hunting garb, shotguns and muddy fields.

But don't smirk. These dogs can hunt.

"They can do anything a Lab can do," said Erickson, 52, of Stillwater, who also owns two Labradors and a Jack Russell terrier (all of which hunt). Said Gelbmann, 60, of St. Paul, Minn., who has trained dogs for 40 years and also owns a second hunting poodle and a young Lab, "They hunt hard and determined."

Both poodles get way more action than average hunting dogs. Erickson and Gelbmann, both avid bird hunters, travel with family and friends to North and South Dakota for pheasants and to Canada for waterfowl. And they regularly volunteer to handle retrieving duties for shooters at the Minnesota Horse and Hunt Club in Prior Lake. There, the poodles might retrieve dozens of birds in an afternoon.

Their highly trained dogs also compete in AKC hunt tests, as well as agility and obedience competitions.

Wherever they go, Erickson and Gelbmann and their poodles get plenty of quizzical looks. The most common question: "Does that dog actually hunt?"

"We always get a lot of attention," Erickson said. "A game warden in South Dakota stopped and checked our licenses and asked if he could take a picture."

They like being in the spotlight.

"It's way fun, especially when the dogs work as well as these guys do," Gelbmann said.

That poodles can hunt shouldn't be a surprise. Poodles have a long hunting history in Europe. They were originally bred to be water retrievers. The name "poodle" comes from the German word Pudelhund - "pudeln" means "to splash" and "hund" means "dog." It was shortened to Pudel - or poodle, in English.

And those odd haircuts? Hunters long ago shaved their poodles in certain areas for added mobility and left other areas for warmth.

Poodles were introduced to the United States in the late 1800s and at one time were the most popular breed in America. But their hunting genetics were bred out of them as they became primarily show dogs and pets.

Poodles come in three sizes: standard, miniature and toy. Erickson's and Gelbmann's poodles, both males, are standard. Gelbmann's 8-year-old dog weighs 50 pounds; Erickson's, age 4, weighs about 62 pounds.

Today, the problem is finding poodles bred to hunt, they said. A few breeders are doing just that.

"You can't just go get a poodle and hope," Erickson said.

Though she has hunted with Labs her entire life, Gelbmann acquired a poodle years ago, was impressed, and when it died got another and decided to try to teach it to hunt. Erickson encountered them at a dog show and decided she, too, wanted to try hunting with a poodle.

"This dog has absolutely no hunting genetics - none," Gelbmann said as Cache calmly sat by her side the other day, waiting for the shooting to start. "It was bred out of him. I have encouraged him and taught him. It's not like a Lab; anyone can train a Lab."

But the dogs still have the instincts to hunt. "My 8-month-old puppy has so much bird drive, he's going to be phenomenal," Gelbmann said.

Both women say the dogs are a joy.

"I just love poodles," Gelbmann said. "They are calm, very people-oriented, smart and easy to train. And they have great noses and are hypoallergenic because they don't shed. They're very affectionate, have great temperament and are great family dogs."

Said Erickson, "It's just a pleasure to work with them."

But what about all that fluffy fur? One reason Labs are such popular hunting dogs is their self-cleaning, short fur needs little, if any, attention.

Not so with hunting poodles.

The biggest drawback: "Burrs," Erickson said. She combed out 30 to 40 burrs from Rider's coat during a break in the action.

How bad is it?

"It depends on how long your dog's fur is and how bad the burrs are that you get into," Erickson said.

She and Gelbmann use a silicone spray on their poodles to reduce burr adhesion. "It also prevents snow from balling in their fur," Gelbmann said.

"They're no more difficult to care for than a golden (retriever) or spaniels," Erickson said.

The other drawback, and there's no getting around this one: "Their looks," Gelbmann said. They're poodles, after all.

At the Horse and Hunt Club, hunters often do double-takes when they spot them. Many are skeptical - until they see the dogs in action.

"That dog is really good," one hunter said to Erickson as Rider retrieved yet another downed bird.

"Thanks," she replied with a smile.


1 posted on 12/10/2008 7:28:56 PM PST by JoeProBono
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2 posted on 12/10/2008 7:30:35 PM PST by JoeProBono ( Loose Associations - Postcards from My Mind)
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To: JoeProBono

Being a dog fancier, I’ve never doubted it. Great coat for retrieval in water.


3 posted on 12/10/2008 7:31:04 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: JoeProBono

Poodles are very smart and they are tough little bastards.
Still I prefer Labs myself.


4 posted on 12/10/2008 7:31:25 PM PST by Frantzie
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I love standard poodles....smart dogs that don’t shed.....


5 posted on 12/10/2008 7:31:42 PM PST by Kimmers (Always go straight forward. If you meet the devil, cut him in half and go between the pieces.)
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6 posted on 12/10/2008 7:33:21 PM PST by JoeProBono ( Loose Associations - Postcards from My Mind)
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7 posted on 12/10/2008 7:36:27 PM PST by JoeProBono ( Loose Associations - Postcards from My Mind)
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The other drawback, and there’s no getting around this one: “Their looks,” Gelbmann said. They’re poodles, after all.

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As if all poodles look the same.

I have to post some pictures of my Standard Poodle who turned 2 today! He looks like the white one pictured except I don’t shave his face, the pictures on my home page are old. What’s a good, free web hosting site? Thanks.


8 posted on 12/10/2008 7:40:27 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: JoeProBono

Seeing that the French bred them for hunting, is this a real surprise?

Not trying to be smart here, but that’s the truth.


9 posted on 12/10/2008 7:41:02 PM PST by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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10 posted on 12/10/2008 7:43:04 PM PST by JoeProBono ( Loose Associations - Postcards from My Mind)
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11 posted on 12/10/2008 7:44:41 PM PST by KoRn
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I thought they were german dogs to start. ???


12 posted on 12/10/2008 7:45:12 PM PST by Frantzie
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Ohhhhhh so cute !!!!!

Love the poster dude for Cabela’s with a poodle at the end of a blaze orange leash


13 posted on 12/10/2008 7:45:37 PM PST by Kimmers (Always go straight forward. If you meet the devil, cut him in half and go between the pieces.)
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14 posted on 12/10/2008 7:46:31 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Sorry, all out of free Brightsides and Lazamatazes. If you took two, please return one.)
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To: JoeProBono; kanawa

This is no surprise JPB. Standard poodles were originally used for retrievers.

I had a toy, yes a “toy” poodle for 13 years, and she was a bird pointing machine.

Her little tail would stand up, she’d raise her paw, and quiver, stand forever pointing a bird. And they are great retrievers.

I have an English setter now, with an impressive pedigree, and she has nothing on that poodle when it comes to instinct to point and retrieve.

People used to laugh at me when I told them my poodle was one heck of a bird dog.


15 posted on 12/10/2008 7:48:02 PM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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16 posted on 12/10/2008 7:52:04 PM PST by JoeProBono ( Loose Associations - Postcards from My Mind)
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17 posted on 12/10/2008 7:54:58 PM PST by JoeProBono ( Loose Associations - Postcards from My Mind)
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To: Frantzie

The french claim the poodle as their own. The germans claim the poodle as their own. We don’t really know who invented the breed.


18 posted on 12/10/2008 8:02:49 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: JoeProBono

In my whole life, I have only seen one hunter use purebred poodles for gundogs. Usually, hunters use poodle crossed with something. Either a labradoodle, or a poodlepointer.


19 posted on 12/10/2008 8:05:23 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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"The name "poodle" comes from the German word Pudelhund - "pudeln" means "to splash" and "hund" means "dog." It was shortened to Pudel - or poodle, in English."

German bred- French only hunt truffles while walking backwards with their hands above their heads.
20 posted on 12/10/2008 8:07:00 PM PST by Free_SJersey (THE GOVERNMENT THAT GOVERNS LEAST, GOVERNS BEST. CONSTITUTION FIRST!)
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