Unfortunately, at this point, he’s qualified.
The “people” asked the state of Hawaii if Obama was born there. They said yes. The court thinks that’s good enough. End of story.
If the Supreme Court took the case, I can guarantee you they will just ask the state of Hawaii to show them the birth certificate, and then the court will just say “looks good enough to me”, regardless of any other evidence that’s presented. There is no way they are going to believe any of the other evidence more than they will believe a government making an official statement.
No good can possibly come from pursuing it anymore, regardless of the rightness of the cause. You don’t always get to win. It is time to work on doing things that will lead to victory.
“The “people” asked the state of Hawaii if Obama was born there. They said yes. The court thinks that’s good enough. End of story.”
Really? When did that happen?
“If the Supreme Court took the case, I can guarantee you they will just ask the state of Hawaii to show them the birth certificate, and then the court will just say “looks good enough to me”, regardless of any other evidence that’s presented.”
Will you purchase a cash bond to ensure your guarantee?
If so, scan it and then post it here. Otherwise, fuggedaboutit.
Is that why the Governor of Illinois was arrested and hauled off to jail? I guess they didn't believe THAT government, did they?
-PJ
Wow!! They said that. Yup, end of story. How could we have all missed this? Boy, were we wrong.
Unfortunately, at this point, he’s qualified.
***The same 20th Amendment puts the burden of proof squarely on the president elect to Qualify. Where has he met that burden? Do we get to see his birth certificate? NO!
The “people” asked the state of Hawaii if Obama was born there. They said yes. The court thinks that’s good enough. End of story.
***You just plain got that wrong. Reassess the facts. You and I and us freepers are “the people” and we do not have the birth certificate, and per the 20th amendment he has not met the burden of proof of qualification.
If the Supreme Court took the case, I can guarantee you they will just ask the state of Hawaii to show them the birth certificate, and then the court will just say “looks good enough to me”, regardless of any other evidence that’s presented.
***I’m not interested in your guarantees. I’m interested in the constitution being upheld.
There is no way they are going to believe any of the other evidence more than they will believe a government making an official statement.
***Who is “they” in this sentence? It doesn’t make sense.
No good can possibly come from pursuing it anymore, regardless of the rightness of the cause.
***Wrong. The 20th amendment spells it out. Election results are subordinate to Qualification. That’s the way our founding fathers intended it, that’s the way it’s written, that’s the way it oughta be and it is my hope that that’s the way the Supreme Court (who gets paid to uphold the constituion) will decide.
You don’t always get to win. It is time to work on doing things that will lead to victory.
***You may start looking at the definition of CoLB Troll and see if it applies to yourself. This is a constitutionalist website, this is a constitutional issue, and we don’t really need bozos like you pushing for more compromise on deep seated constitutional issues any more than we need a new hole in our heads.
No good can possibly come from pursuing it anymore, regardless of the rightness of the cause.
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Unbelievable lack of principles.
Thank God our Founding Fathers were made of sturdier
stuff.
Never happened. Obama hasn't authorized the release of his birth certificate OR the Certificate of Live Birth. He has an IMAGE of a Certificate of Live Birth on his website. Here's what the Hawaiian official said:
"There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record," DOH Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said.
State officials said Saturday they have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.
"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.
Now what does it say?
1. Does it say that Obama has his birth certificate? Nope. It says the State of Hawaii does.
2. Does it say that Certification of Live Birth that Obama posted on his website came from their office via request? No, it doesn't.
3. Does it say that they have released it to anyone? No, it doesn't.
4. Does it say that Obama was born in Hawaii? No it doesn't. And during the period of time that Obama was born you could register a an adopted child born elsewhere as being Hawaiian and the Certification of Live Birth would state that the birth record is on file in Hawaii. It wouldn't say where he was born. So if Obama was born in Kenya and later adopted by his white grandparents...why then wouldn't he appear to have been born in Hawaii?
5. Does it say they've seen his birth certificate and that he was born in Hawaii? No, they said it's on file. They can't access it because "State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record".
Hawaii has stated that there is an original birth certificate on file. That is ALL they have said.
This "fact" you have asserted is flat out wrong.