Posted on 12/09/2008 9:59:02 AM PST by Kevmo
I agree, well said, but I wish I had more hope than that. This huge investment we have all made in a constitutional republic and the judicial branch, with its lifetime appointments to avoid political intrigue, may be going into a bankruptcy of confidence and rule of law.
I don’t like it either, but it is the constitution. And fraud is fraud, so we need to uphold the rule of law.
We need the Constitution for a million other essential reasons in the future. Trashing it now will kill us later. Not just people; it will kill our great Republic.
***That’s what I’ve been saying. We can survive a president Hillary. We cannot survive the deliberate refutation of the constitution by those we entrust to uphold it.
I believe Irish men and women are capable of drinking and revolting at the same time (smile).
***Yup, we’re good multitaskers. But then there’s that expression, “God invented Whiskey so the Irish wouldn’t rule the world.” There’s something to that as well. Anyways, thanks for the laughs.
Feelings have replaced the meaning the words the Supreme Law of the Land once conveyed.
***We can work that to our advantage. Street demonstrators saying, “20th Amendment” and the press feverishly looking it up because they never do their homework. Then they’ll hurriedly look for some liberal constitutional scholar that will agree to say that it doesn’t mean what it says. Their method is too slow, too subtle, too much subject to the deer-in-the-headlights look, and they’ll have no choice but to report the news.
Obama would get UN rep...”President of the World” in his eyes.
***There’s a scenario that makes a ton of sense. It reads like a political entrigue novel, in just one paragraph.
This entire BO thing ...
reads like a political entrigue novel, in just one LOOOOOONG paragraph.
At the moment - there are more pieces of "credible evidence" that Dalai-Bama does NOT meet the Constitutional qualification..
- Foremost, his refusal to make public an authenticated BIRTH CERTIFICATE -- but instead releases a "Certificate of Live Birth" from a state who made a practice of issuing them upon request... There is no dispute of his live birth - that is obvious - the question remains WHERE.
- Obama has lawyered up and spent a reported $500,000 fighting court action demanding he produce an Authenticated BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
- His Kenyan grandmother FREQUENTLY boasted she attended his birth in Kenya... She has since been unavailable for interviews. The former Kenyan Ambassador also stated it was "common knowledge" of Obama's Kenyan birth. It would be racist to not accept family member or Kenyan Government Official input without some credibility!
- Given the age of his mother, the British Commonwealth citizenship of his "reputed" sperm donor father, Obama's subsequent "citizenship" in Indonesia, etc, etc.... Questions of dual or multiple citizenship and previous passports -- produce more questions than answers about Obama meeting the simple Constitutional requirement of being a Natural Born citizen.
I can perhaps overlook Obama's muddy past, his locking access to all records of his life, college work and involvement with Islam - which he denies. I can even overlook his less that sterling resume and if I try real hard I can overlook his 20+ year history following a black racist Pastor who ALSO had a history with Islam ------ But, I refuse to accept as president a man who is too arrogant to produce a document "Hawaii State Officials" say exist that proves he was born in Hawaii...
Simply SHOW ME THE PAPER... Now really - how hard or damaging could that be if it exists and proves what Obama wants us to believe? Huh?
“Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.”
I.E. Congress selecting one who is qualified - Hillary
No. The Presidential Succession Act of 1947 would apply. So we would go by the regular Presidential Line of Succession, starting with San Fran Nan. Of course, before anyone could become Acting President, after the VP, would have to resign from any other office that person held before such a person could become Acting President.
Oh man, four years of Biden gaffes would be hilarious.
For sure. If president is ineligible to hold office and if Congress is a party to that, the entire federal government is illegitimate and so is Federal Income tax.
No good can possibly come from pursuing it anymore, regardless of the rightness of the cause.
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Unbelievable lack of principles.
Thank God our Founding Fathers were made of sturdier
stuff.
It is apparent that your definition of credible evidence differs from mine, and I strongly suspect that it also differs from what the courts regard as credible evidence. If you have some other reasonable explanation, I’m all ears.
Like I said before, if you have some reasonable explanation for why the SCOTUS failed to give a full hearing to this matter, please post away. But, of course, that would require some actual thought on your part which is a little more difficult than making a cutesy remark about my screenname.
Of the remaining Democrats - who has the most power behind them/under their control?
I would say Hillary.
They’re not going to play by the rules. She’d politically manuever past Biden and Pelosi somehow if Obama was disqualified.
Thanks Kevmo.
Then they would be cowards deciding to hide from an issue that would be their duty to deal with.
Deriliction of Duty should then be pursued.
This is a burning issue that will not go away on it's own. The SC has a duty to directly deal with it and rule one way or another. Ignoring it is not dealing with it directly. If they do not deal with this and real and credible evidence surfaces in the future, all hell will break loose. The SC can and should prevent this.
Never happened. Obama hasn't authorized the release of his birth certificate OR the Certificate of Live Birth. He has an IMAGE of a Certificate of Live Birth on his website. Here's what the Hawaiian official said:
"There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record," DOH Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said.
State officials said Saturday they have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.
"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.
Now what does it say?
1. Does it say that Obama has his birth certificate? Nope. It says the State of Hawaii does.
2. Does it say that Certification of Live Birth that Obama posted on his website came from their office via request? No, it doesn't.
3. Does it say that they have released it to anyone? No, it doesn't.
4. Does it say that Obama was born in Hawaii? No it doesn't. And during the period of time that Obama was born you could register a an adopted child born elsewhere as being Hawaiian and the Certification of Live Birth would state that the birth record is on file in Hawaii. It wouldn't say where he was born. So if Obama was born in Kenya and later adopted by his white grandparents...why then wouldn't he appear to have been born in Hawaii?
5. Does it say they've seen his birth certificate and that he was born in Hawaii? No, they said it's on file. They can't access it because "State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record".
Good point. This would seem to indicate that either the legislature or the courts determine qualification.
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