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To: The Watcher
This is the best commentary I have read, bar none, on what is the meaning of natural-born, and just as importantly, what is NOT.

Too bad the United States Senate disagrees with you declaring that both location on American territory and birth to two American citizens is necessary for "natural born citizen" in SR 511:

"Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen' under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States."

However, I'm sure that the Senate is a bit embarrassed for not requiring candidate John McCain to produce his original birth certificate before the Resolution was adopted.

Let's hope that they all learned their lesson and don't face that same embarrassment with Obama -- You know, Hope and Change.

91 posted on 12/08/2008 5:10:10 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip

The Senate has no real authority on that matter... they were just hoping to set precedent.

I think a reasonable case can be made (not sure how strong, just a reasonable one) that McCain was born subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

Again, this is perfectly consistent with the idea that children born to aliens here should not be considered citizens, unless a law is passed to make them so, and the option is exercised.

Again, the geography of McCain’s birth is not necessarily the determining factor. His parents were subject to, and fully subject to, US jurisdiction. They weren’t aliens on their own in another country, they didn’t obtain residency in Panama on their own, etc. They did not choose to leave the US behind and go somewhere else.

As for “anchor babies”. If the mother and baby were deported, would their original country claim both?


103 posted on 12/08/2008 11:37:05 AM PST by The Watcher
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