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To: zarodinu
Natural Born Citizen means anyone who receives citizenship by birth, and not through a naturalization process

I concur, Natural born is the opposite of Naturalized. There are citizens and non-citizens. Of the citizens, you are either natural born or naturalized. This is not rocket science people.

8 posted on 12/07/2008 11:51:31 PM PST by DCBurgess58
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To: DCBurgess58

Follow this: Obama was a dual citizen at birth by his own admission, so when his British/Kenyan citizenship expired he became solely U.S. thus naturalized not natural born ... cannot be natural born citizen if born with dividied citizenship.


9 posted on 12/07/2008 11:54:29 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: DCBurgess58; zarodinu; The Watcher; smokingfrog; BossLady; Prophet in the wilderness; MHGinTN; ...
Natural Born Citizen means anyone who receives citizenship by birth, and not through a naturalization process

I concur, Natural born is the opposite of Naturalized. There are citizens and non-citizens. Of the citizens, you are either natural born or naturalized. This is not rocket science people.

Well, I'll be interested in what John Jay did say (not much, Hamilton) but you will find in this article, apparent sources and resources relevant to the framers, which require both components (birth in state and birth by citizen father).

They include John A. Bingham (framer of 14th Amendment), St. George Tucker (foremost commentary on Blackstone vis a vis U.S. Law) and Emmerich de Vatel (The Law of Nations).

The Donofrio "Natural Born Citizen" Challenge

Zarodinu why don't you do us the favor of excerpting and posting what you deem most relevant from John Jay? And yes, welcome to FR.

22 posted on 12/08/2008 12:36:34 AM PST by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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