Posted on 12/07/2008 12:24:08 AM PST by Stoat
The Atlas of True Names replaces the traditional names of the world's cities, countries, rivers and mountains with new ones to reflect their origins and literal meaning.
The Great Land of the Tattooed (Great Britain), now features such cities as Hillfort (London), Bear Guard Home (Birmingham), Choked Pool (Liverpool) and Slopecastle (Edinburgh).
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The Orkneys has one of the most fascinating origins. Labelled Isles of the Sea Monsters in the atlas, the word 'orc' means whale, or sea monster in Celtic.
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A few comments from Daily Mail readers:
Prettanoi is wrong and has nothing to do with Britain. Britannia, from which Britain actually derives, is a Latin not a Greek name; Pictoi means 'the painted people' and referred to one particular tribe in what is now Scotland. As far as I know the Greeks actually referred to the British Isles as the Hyperborean Isles, 'the lands behind the West Wind'. No-one knows what Londinium meant.
I suspect the whole thing is a jest - as it is more likely the name Britain descends from the Old French Bretaigne, which in turn was taken from the Latin for Britannia or Land of the Britons. We were known as Greater Britain as opposed to Lesser Britain (now Britanny in France). Before that Britain was known as Albion; in fact the Greeks from Aristotle onwards knew us as Bretannic or Britanniae, rather than the Prettanoi - which referred more to the northern islands up to and including Thule (possibly Iceland).
Hmm..... interesting! My schooldays taught me that place names ending in don were generally of Saxon in origin. Still, it was Celtic prior to Roman occupation and I've heard it was Londonium? If so, it's not such a stretch. BTW The town I live in, was named after a Lieutenant Governor of British Columbia. Not the Admiral of the column. So, it would be logical that some place names come from a different meaning to what it seems? As Shakespeare puts it, "A rose by any other would smell so sweet".
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ROTFLMAO
C’mon, that didn’t pop into your mind when you read that word? ;-)
I was apparently applying improper syllabic stresses to the word and so I didn’t initially make the true connection, which brings it all into the proper light and perspective ;-)
That is so freakin’ cool!
[we of the Appalachians are “The People On The Other Side”?...heh heh...I like it]....;D
Well, now that you’ve seen the error of your ways...
;-)
[we of the Appalachians are The People On The Other Side?...heh heh...I like it]....;D
I'm delighted that you've found it to be worthwhile :-)
Only one though....there are so very many (or so I am told....)
"sigh"
I’m ordering it!
I love etymology to the point that people think I’m nutty because I’ll keep digging until I find the answers.
A spare room upstairs is full of old books on this sort of stuff.
I *am* curious about how they arrived at London’s origin.
I’ve always read that it came from “Lugdunum” or “Fortress of Lug”, the Celtic deity.
Hmmm....
Hmmm. The explanation for Yucatan listed there particularly dodgy and sophomoric. I can’t believe they reference urban legends and jokes when putting together something as serious as an atlas. I wonder what they put in as a copyright trap. lol.
This strikes me as a little bit silly.
Iskandar (and variants) is the general Eastern way of spelling Alexander. Al = The in Arabic. Al Iskandariyah probably means the city of Alexander.
What a cool idea!
That’s a neat atlas. Names take on a sort of “Lord of the Rings” tone.
I have some credibility issues.
“Boston” comes from St. Botolph’s Town, in England. No “stone” involved. That’s just an etymological coincidence.
Really curious: America as “Home Ruler”?
I'm considering it as well...I've always been intrigued by word origins and these two atlases aren't very expensive.
I love etymology to the point that people think Im nutty because Ill keep digging until I find the answers.
A spare room upstairs is full of old books on this sort of stuff.
Etymology tells us a great deal about who we are and who and where we come from....having a passionate interest in etymology is much like having a passionate interest in history....nothing wrong with that, and it's quite a useful body of knowledge to have.
I *am* curious about how they arrived at Londons origin.
Ive always read that it came from Lugdunum or Fortress of Lug, the Celtic deity.
Hmmm....
Apparently this question is still a matter of fierce scholarly debate.
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Might argue with Fuerteventura as "great adventure". If you've ever been there the place is plagued with high winds, and is a surfer's paradise. "Fuerte" does mean strong, but "Ventura" is more likely to come from "viento" , Spanish for wind.
- Stuart, Palma Mallorca, 6/12/2008 5:52