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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Quite simply, TRUST has been destroyed.

Still, I see that as a government failure. Where did these instruments originate? In mortgages. The ability to trust that basic instrument was gutted by ‘lets roll the dice on this’ Barney Frank and most popular contribution receiver Christopher Dodd. If I’m a bank that has been forced/encouraged to make a risky loan, I am going to treat it like a hot potato, bundle it up with a few others and get it off my books. Would setting up the trading exchange you describe not have been in opposition to the socialist goal of placing everyone in mansions?


20 posted on 12/06/2008 9:43:50 AM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: sgtyork

Yes, forcing banks [via legislation, community organizer pressure, or congressional pressure, or all in concert] to make snarky loans incentivizes (if not forces) banks to offload their risk. (The truth is, the banks generally don’t want to hold mortgages anyway) Fannie/Freddie provided the ready offload mechanism for those risks. All well and good so far, even with default rates rising from appx 3/4 of 1% historical to 3-4% = now, at least anecdotally.

So, with an implied (since made explicit) govt guarantee, FNM debt was attractive in the post 9/11 era of VERY low ROIs, brought on by Gspan dropping rates so low and for so long. Still OK. OK in the sense that if you, as an investor, are looking for secure rates a tad above Tsys debt but instead come out with a 3-4% loss, this shouldn’t be the end of the universe as we know it. But this problem was made quite a bit worse by the real estate valuation bubble brought on such low rates, and yes, the desire to bloat the GSEs to house everyone and anyone in a suburban home. Left alone, the RE crash might have made debt investors lose 8%-10%-12%, nothing to be happy about, but not TEOTWAWKI.

But now, we take the financial engineering aspect; the tranching, the extreme levering, the creating of hierarchies of debt grades and the resulting need to attach massive amounts of default insurance to the lower grades of debt. The wizards of Wall St simply outran the regulators (however you wish to characterize them; either deliberate aiders and abettors; flat-out idiots; or, only-able-to-respond-to-crisis reactionaries) AND the raters (Moody’s, Fitch, et al) with the financial engineering necessary to achieve the gearing that WAS and WOULD HAVE BEEN in excess of banking regs before Glass-Steagal was repealed.

***NOW***, a 3-5% default problem multiplied by 30-50-80 becomes potentially an “over 100%” problem truly suggesting the whole affair could be sucked into a black hole of impossible, defaulting debt. That’s where we are.

So, generically, I would agree with you that it was a gov’t “failure”. It was a failure in the “write mortgages to any person w/a pulse” sense but it was also a failure in the “remove any restraints on the masters of financial fraud” sense. Because it must be noted that in the tranching scheme, the “hot potato” you mention was cut up ten ways and every holder got 15% of the total!

Barney and Dodd may have been flaming socialists in their desire to mansionize everyone. But the turbocharger was really the securitization mechanism brought to a fine art by Wall St. Meanwhile, the entire world deleted the word “risk” from their collective dictionaries. It DID start with morts; and those WERE defined as sub-1% defaulters. Yet without the leverage engineered by Wall St, the problem(s) would be at most 1/20th as big as they actually are.


25 posted on 12/06/2008 10:55:21 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Our government is an edifice of artifice.)
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