[Ethan Clive Osgoode]

“intelligent design”

You said that gambling and chance events are teleological. As such they point to the designing mind of God, according to you. Imagine that, gambling and chance points to a designer. You have been given a few chances to affirm that intelligible order in nature points to the designing mind of God. But so far you have not been able to say that.

The usual example of the flagellum should suffice as an example of intelligible order. Does this point to the designing mind of God? Or is it (as I suspect your perverse reasoning to conclude) that, while gambling points to intentional design on the part of God, something like the flagellum does not?

[allmendream]

I did not say chance events point to the designing mind of God. I pointed out that what we perceive to be “random” is, according to the Bible, all under the control of God.

You attempted to set up a dichotomy. Either things developed according to God's plan, or things developed from random evolution. There is no “random” when dealing with God and God's plans.

The flagellum developed from a type II secretory system, as was apparently God's plan, the flagellum is in no way shape or form “irreducibly complex”.