Posted on 11/15/2008 8:48:13 AM PST by Amityschild
OBAMA ADMITS HE WAS A BRITISH CITIZEN "AT BIRTH" - AS SUCH, OBAMA IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES
Barack Obama's official web site, Fight The Smears, admits he was a British Citizen at birth. At the very bottom of the section of his web site that shows an alleged official Certification Of Live Birth, the web site lists the following information and link thereto: FactCheck.org Clarifies Barack’s Citizenship
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
That is a direct admission Barack Obama was a British citizen "at birth".
(Excerpt) Read more at blogtext.org ...
OK, so say Obama did provide a copy of his birth certificate. What would that prove to you? Would you still claim he was ineligible because of this?
(This blog post below contains the single most controlling legal precedent establishing Senator Barack Obama's ineligibility to be President under the Constitution. So I am leaving this blog post at the top of the blog for the next few days. Please study its simple premise.)
Don't be distracted by the birth certificate and Indonesia issues. They are irrelevant to Senator Obama's ineligibility to be President. Since Barack Obama's father was a Citizen of Kenya and therefore subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of Senator Obama's birth, then Senator Obama was a British Citizen "at birth", just like the Framers of the Constitution, and therefore, even if he were to produce an original birth certificate proving he were born on US soil, he still wouldn't be eligible to be President.
The Framers of the Constitution, at the time of their birth, were also British Citizens and that's why the Framers declared that, while they were Citizens of the United States, they themselves were not "natural born Citizens". Hence their inclusion of the grandfather clause in Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution:
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the Office of President;
That's it right there. (Emphasis added.)
The Framers wanted to make themselves eligible to be President, but they didn't want future generations to be Governed by a Commander In Chief who had split loyalty to another Country. The Framers were comfortable making an exception for themselves. They did, after all, create the Constitution. But they were not comfortable with the possibility of future generations of Presidents being born under the jurisdiction of Foreign Powers, especially Great Britain and its monarchy, who the Framers and Colonists fought so hard in the American Revolution to be free of.
The Framers declared themselves not eligible to be President as "natural born Citizens", so they wrote the grandfather clause in for the limited exception of allowing themselves to be eligible to the Presidency in the early formative years of our infant nation.
But nobody alive today can claim eligibility to be President under the grandfather clause since nobody alive today was a citizen of the US at the time the Constitution was adopted. The Framers distinguished between "natural born Citizens" and all other "Citizens". And that's why it's important to note the 14th Amendment only confers the title of "Citizen", not "natural born Citizen". The Framers were Citizens, but they weren't natural born Citizens. They put the stigma of not being natural born Citizens on themselves in the Constitution and they are the ones who wrote the Document.
Since the the Framers didn't consider themselves to have been "natural born Citizens" due to their having been subject to British jurisdiction at their birth, then Senator Obama, having also been subject to British jurisdiction of at the time of his birth, also cannot be considered a "natural born Citizen" of the United States.]
I did read it. There wasn't anything new in it.
Your post is dead on.
This ‘fellow traveler’ we refer to as BO.... was born abroad.
“”She could have simply said, “I had the baby at home” and brought him in to the hospital to be checked out. Then got the birth certificate record.””
But she didn’t do that, or a BC would have been on file, and we wouldn’t be having this correspondence.
Not to mention that the People now eagerly accept every Constitutional definition handed to them by the public schools.
The Founders gave the federal government specific areas of operation, none of which was the ability to override the inherent authority of the States.
Or if Obama was a member of the British Royal Family then that would certainly grant him diplomatic immunity, too. But I don't suppose you have any evidence of that either?
My supposition negates yours since according to the laws of our country at the time of Obama’s birth citizenship was passed from the father to his children according to the Hague conventions this country had entered into, which by the way also recognized the rights of signatories to disallow dual citizenship as Britain, Kenya, Indonesia and The United States did until fairly recently.
Your story falls apart because the law states that anyone born in the U.S. and subject to its laws is a natural born citizen. You offer nothing to support your theory that Obama, Senior wasn't subject to the laws of the U.S. And in any case, Obama's mother certainly was.
I wish I shared your optimism, but I just cant. Hope I am wrong, but I don't here ANY voices, in our party, that would encourage me. Save one Representative, and he later apologized, wonder why?
Yeah, they say they have it, we get that.
So what does it say, let's have a look at it.
The appropriate authorities in Hawaii have seen it. As for the college records and enrollment records, what does that have to do for his eligibility for Presidents? Finally, since Obama isn't a Ph.D then nobody has seen his doctoral thesis.
Maybe you can divert us to what the meaning of "IS" is. Then we can all shut up and go lay down and play dead.
I suspect that the skies could part, a chorus of angels could sing, and God Himself could hand deliver a copy of Obama's birth certificate and even that wouldn't shut y'all up.
Well then dig up a copy of the Kenyan birth certificate and this whole matter can be put to rest.
NS...waste of type. Run along.
Just when we were having such fun...
I did read all of it. Look, I think we need an amendment to the Constitution about this. I see SCOTUS ruling in the illegals’ favor THE WAY IT IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN. We need something that clearly states that the parent/s have to be LEGALLY here if the child is born here. I am against automatic citizenship for illegal aliens’ kids.
The real question is.......Why was that title and article written in that form?
“natural born citizens”....... The quote tries to confer citizenship only via the father and discards the citizenship of the mother.
Will you?
Oh believe me, he gets it entirely, and is going out of his way to throught the issue and diminish the chances of the issue spreading to more of America.
Legally they can't let you.
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