Posted on 11/15/2008 8:48:13 AM PST by Amityschild
OBAMA ADMITS HE WAS A BRITISH CITIZEN "AT BIRTH" - AS SUCH, OBAMA IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES
Barack Obama's official web site, Fight The Smears, admits he was a British Citizen at birth. At the very bottom of the section of his web site that shows an alleged official Certification Of Live Birth, the web site lists the following information and link thereto: FactCheck.org Clarifies Barack’s Citizenship
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
That is a direct admission Barack Obama was a British citizen "at birth".
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My Father was born in South American to an American mother and German father. He received a Certificate of Live Birth from the US Consulate in the country, which includes the statement: “Birth of an American Citizen” together with the foreign hospital, time and date (I have a copy). His father died suddenly, and he returned with his mother to the US at the age of 2. Even with the COLB stating citizenship, he nevertheless had to naturalize to become a US citizen (and fought in Korea).
Obama’s mother could have obtained the same document from a US consulate if the birth was outside the country. The Hawaiian Governor may have the original on file (i.e. foreign birth record with the tag line: “Birth of an American Citizen”). Even with the tag line, Obama may still be subject to naturalization as my Father was, and so is not “natural born.” The tag line on the US foreign consulate’s COLB may be allowing the HI Governor to obfuscate the issue (if the birth was foreign).
If he’s not constitution, he’s not constitution, He may be the leader (in the end) and we are commanded to pray for him (1 Tim Ch 2), however he wouldn’t be “President” in the strictist sense, he’d be merely “ruler” or “leader”..I have no idea the constitutional implications/..and it is likely congress wouldn’t do anything about it!
The Hawaiian authorities did not say that. They said Obama had a birth certificate that was in order. Hawaii issued birth certificates to babies who were not born in their state.
What “needs” to happen is a reporter (FOX?) or a GOP Senator or staffer goes to Kenya, interviews or deposes the granny, has her show them where Obama was born (the exact spot, the room) and have her tell her tale right there, in his birth room.
Then we’d get some action on this.
The government of the state of Hawaii has confirmed that he is.
THey did nothing of the sort they only confirmed that they had a copy of his birth certificate, not that they issued it or that he was a US citizen only that they had a birth certificate for him and that it is sealed.
Yeah... I’m not sure this will fly, while I’d love to see something come of it. I think the definition of Natural Born means born on American soil, not whether your parents were American citizens.
My concern is that certification of his birth was delayed 4 days (possibly in order to allow mom and baby time enough to travel to Hawaii from Kenya?)
Any encyclopedia will confirm that Kenya was a British colony until December 12, 1963. The Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations adopted in April 1961 defines who are diplomats and covered by diplomatic immunity. Nothing in that convention can be construed to cover students. So what you call supposition on my part is actually the result of some research.
Now...do you have anything supporting your supposition that Obama senior was covered by diplomatic immunity?
Opps - sorry about the double post.
Why would they have a foreign birth certificate?
posted by Anonymous. on Nov.15.2008 @ 12:33 pm Edit | Delete
I am a student of history, and I have researched this pretty well. The terms "natural born" appear only 1 time in the constitution. No where else does the requirement of a "grade" of citizenship come into play. All other consitutional requirements, outside of President, and Vice President, are available to Naturalized citizens. In order to understand the mindset of the Framers of the Constitution, you have to look at their other writings to develope an" opinion" of what they were thinking when they wrote the requirements.
I have only found 1 reference to the "Natural born" sentiment in a letter from John Jay to George Washington, insisting that the Commander in Chief of the military ( the President) had "singular loyalty" to the United States, and therefore must be Natural born.
Although none of the other Framers, or influential minds of the age wrote anything specific on the subject, their belief in the " singular loyalty theory" is evident throughout their writings, both published articles and archived letters.
They had just commited the largest usurpation of Governement in the history of the world , and it could not have been accomplished without educated, pensive, and ferocious patriotism. This would lead anyone who reads any of their writings to understand that not a SINGLE word was taken lightly, nor was their any duality in their meaning.
It is my understanding that the Supreme Court Justices are bound to interpret the Founding Fathers intent when they adjudicate a case that has no precedent. If that is the case, then there is no way anyone could come up with anything other than a firm belief in the "Singular Loyalty" opinion.
Jefferson,Hamilton, Frankilin, John Admas, Samual Adams, John Jay, George Washington, and a whole host of others are implicit in their beleifs.....One Nation......One Loyalty......... no Questions or "Ifs"
Just think. In four years, the Russians, Iranians, Pakistanis, etc. could all be eligible as our commander and Chief. If Oboma sets the president, how can we turn back the tide? Gee. Thanks democrats for selling us out - again.
They'd use it for his certificate of live birth information. They'd also need it for his adoption certificate.
You must not be. If Obama was not born in Hawaii then why would they have his original birth certificate?
Thank you for your very concise post! A breath of fresh air.
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