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To: Freeper Fanatic

As others have noted without comment, you’re WRONG.

Although Stanley Dunham was an American citizen, *if* she gave birth to the Ø in Kenya and then flew back to Hawai’i, the he is *not* natural born, because she was too young to convey American citizenship.

Furthermore, in either case *if* Lolo Soetoro adopted Barack in Indonesia, that would have replaced his birth certificate with Lolo now the father, and thus made Barack an Indonesian citizen. Even if he was born in Hawai’i, this crushes his ‘natural-born’ citizenship. The ONLY way around it was for him to have filed in the State Department at age 18 to renounce Indonesian (and any Kenyan) citizenship. There’s no evidence he did that, nor that he filed for a legal name change back from Soetoro to Obama.

The mystery is that only if he were still a legal Soetoro from Indonesia would he have been let into Pakistan to visit. Or, they might have just assumed a man with his name was a Muslim. It would be interesting to know.


27 posted on 11/10/2008 4:47:01 AM PST by sturmde
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To: sturmde
Naturalization Act of 1790
OK, A lot of you are more informed than I, but here is my meger attempt to resolve the issue.

Here is what Wikipedia has in regaurd to the definition of "Natural Born Citizen".

Naturalization Act of 1790
The Act also establishes the United States citizenship of children of citizens, born abroad, without the need for naturalization, "the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1790

There are also these two tidbits from the second link,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen
"The 1790 Congress, many of whose members had been members of the Constitutional Convention, provided in the Naturalization Act of 1790 that "And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens." In addition George Washington was president of the Constitutional Convention and President of the United States when this bill became law. If Washington disagreed with this definition, he could have vetoed this bill".
And
"Lowell Weicker, the former Connecticut Senator, Representative, and Governor, entered the race for the Republican party nomination of 1980 but dropped out before voting in the primaries began. He was born in Paris, France and acquired his citizenship at birth through his parents. His father was an executive for E. R. Squibb & Sons and his mother was the Indian-born daughter of a British general". He was eligable to be President with a foreign mother and being born in Paris.

Does this apply today or not?

34 posted on 11/10/2008 8:30:33 PM PST by Freeper Fanatic
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