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To: Colofornian

Thats absurd, that’s defamation of character without no proof to back it up, are you a Marxist?


26 posted on 11/09/2008 11:51:08 AM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: whatisthetruth; romanesq; 1000 silverlings; Texas Eagle
...without no proof to back it up [whatisthetruth]

Go to: http://www.watchman.org/cults/roymstrs.htm

Watchman says: "As a young boy he became interested in hypnotism. He added to his hypnotism techniques after studying African witchdoctor rites during his apprenticeship at South African diamond mines when he was 18."

Web site goes on to say:

"He came to America in 1949, at age 21, to lecture on diamonds. He legally changed his name to Roy Masters in 1954 (yet never acquired American citizenship) and eventually became a professional hypnotist claiming he could 'save people by teaching them self-sufficiency meditative hypnosis.'"

"The American Medical Association pressed charges against him for practicing medicine without a license. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail. He likens this 'persecution' to the persecution Jesus suffered.

"He is a self-described 'Christian mystic' combining Eastern mysticism and Gnosticism with Christian jargon, yoga, hypnotism and self-help principles."

"As with other Eastern-oriented cults, The Foundation of Human Understanding teaches that God is both personal and impersonal, advocating an almost pantheistic God.

"In lieu of dependence on Jesus Christ for salvation, Masters teaches dependence on his meditation techniques. He teaches that mankind is inherently good, thus there is no need for salvation or a savior."

"All problems man encounters can be resolved through self effort."

The Watchman Web site includes this quote from Masters:

"No form of outer assistance can substitute for inner direction. Direction must come always from within. Moved by the spirit of intuition, we move without excitement, effort or strain. The more we exercise our dependency upon the Within, the stronger this relationship becomes, and we know it to be Grace," (How To Keep Your Mind Well, p. 165, Foundation Press, 1971).

Watchman says that "though he claims to have been saved by the blood of Christ, he states that 'one of the biggest curses in Christendom is the false idea that Jesus is God."

So somebody who has taught that "Jesus is God" is a huge curse in Christendom is an (NOT the) anti-Christ -- against the Christ of the Bible.

CRI has written about Masters: At the core of Masters's sect, which was founded in 1960, is a reliance on meditation, yoga, and hypnotism mixed with many Eastern concepts. Although he claims to be a mystical Christian he rejects the central doctrine of Christianity -- Christ's death on the cross as atonement for sin. For a short time there was a dialogue between Walter Martin and Masters. CRI continues to offer a two-cassette tape of Martin debating Masters live on the "Bible Answer Man" program. http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/web/crj0144a.html

That interview, where Masters claims you can't sin if you're saved, can be heard here: http://www.fhu.com/player/roy-masters-debates-walter-martin-highspeed.html

29 posted on 11/09/2008 12:21:15 PM PST by Colofornian
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