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To: Ophiucus
Many libertarians are.

The most I get that libertarians want is to freely smoke dope.

Another example - I think the Federal government should be small, rigidly held within its Constitutional restraints, a drastically reduced and balanced budget and debt free (fat chance, I know). I feel that the Federal government shouldn't be wasting money on a Dept of Education, or Welfare/Human Services or any liberal dream waste. Hence, a fiscal conservative.

I do not disagree, but once you have people hooked how do you teach them another way.

However, I think that the Federal government should also stay out of regulating personal lives, beliefs, sexuality. I feel that social conservatives who attempt to use government entities and legislation to enforce their morality on others are just as in the wrong when liberals do so. Hence, this often aligns me with the social 'liberals'.

Social liberals have no problem regulating personal lives they just do not admit it. Taxation is done to punish, certainly not to increase wealth. Government owns the airwaves and leases them out and the government claims control over what gets sent out over them. So government has become the advocate of 'sexuality' and social liberals do not seem to mind the act of taxation to care for the consequences of a sex driven society.

33 posted on 11/07/2008 10:56:46 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Just mythoughts
The most I get that libertarians want is to freely smoke dope.

Just the fringe. Many of the founders would have been considered libertarians. Libertarian ideals are expressed in the Declaration of Independence, Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged, and Barry Goldwater's Conscience of a Conservative.

The modern libertarian party also has serious problems when it comes to foreign policy.

I do not disagree, but once you have people hooked how do you teach them another way.

Good question. Maybe cold turkey like other addicts....

Social liberals have no problem regulating personal lives they just do not admit it. Taxation is done to punish, certainly not to increase wealth. Government owns the airwaves and leases them out and the government claims control over what gets sent out over them. So government has become the advocate of 'sexuality' and social liberals do not seem to mind the act of taxation to care for the consequences of a sex driven society.

Absolutely. Government has no business doing any of these things. Nor should it have the power of the non- or un- apportioned tax, aka income tax. But that's a discussion for another thread like one on Fair Tax.

41 posted on 11/07/2008 11:10:06 PM PST by Ophiucus
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