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To: Traviswf

Ok, so let’s assume what you say is true. If the media dominates the message, and it slants left as you claim that it proves the nation is Left, then why do the Democrats want to take it one step further and silence the Conservative voice of opposition and free speech via radio?

The Liberal message should be able to stand on its own, on radio, or not at all. The real question is why can’t it stand on its own?

Cmon, we all know the deal here. Truth is, they want to completely shut us up. And that’s just plain unAmerican, and could trigger major civil unrest which could evolve into something massive.

Don’t think that only blacks are capable of rioting and mayhem. Only difference is blacks make up only 13% of the populace and of that amount only a fraction cause civil unrest. Conservatives number roughly half of the evenly divided nation. The vote never represents the actual demographics, it only represents those that made it to the polls or decided to vote in this election.

Fact is, in ever election the MAJORITY of the population simply doesn’t vote.

The popular vote was very close. The Democrats committed the largest vote fraud in history and its still going on as we speak. Subtract the cheater votes, and I’d say we are about divided down the middle.

I don’t think anyone is real eager to test those odds. They take away our free speech, and that will be about as close to a declaration of war on us, as trying to infringe on our rights to KABA.


653 posted on 11/11/2008 3:12:50 PM PST by FTL
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To: FTL

The democrats actually didn’t commit voter fraud (that we know of, so far). There were no significant charges or reports of voter fraud. There was much sturmundrang about voter fraud from the right, just as there was breathless cries about “voter suppression” from the left. Both charges have become par for the course of the legal strategies built into both sides since 2000.

I actually attended a Kerry legal fundraiser in 2004 to prepare for potential legal battles surrounding that election and was told by someone who works on the legal side of these things that armies of lawyers being employed and deployed on election day has become the norm on both sides of the fence. It’s just a fact of our process now, thanks to Florida. If you’ve seen the movie Recount - or read about what happened surrounding it - you’ll see that the Republicans got there first, thanks to James Baker.

In the movie, there’s a great exchange - which was fictional - but I think properly captured the two mindsets of that fight.

Warren Christopher, representing Gore says “We’re going to do this in full accordance with the election laws, and in an orderly fashion...”

And then it cuts to Baker who says “Make no mistake about it ladies and gentlemen, this is a street fight for the presidency of the United States.”

Clearly, Baker had the right idea - since we’re not finishing up Gore’s first term. If you look at the count in Missouri right now, it’s easy to imagine a scenario where we could still be awaiting the outcome of the election - with armies of lawyers arguing all over the map.

While there WERE charges of voter registration fraud from low wage ACORN people who cheated on their registration forms to get paid. But voter registration fraud is very different - and far more common - than voter fraud.

You can register “Mickey Mouse” in order to collect the $8, but getting Mickey to actually show up to vote is another thing entirely. Clearly ACORN needs to do things differently, but I believe it’s far more difficult to perpetrate voter fraud, which carries very serious penalties - then voter registration fraud - which does not.

And the “fairness doctrine” isn’t really a cause celebre on the left. Obama doesn’t support it, nobody even proposed anything in the last session. I think the left feels slandered by the right, which is just a constant and steady stream of unchallenged, and often false, information.

Also - the “fairness doctrine” as I understand it in a historical context, means that stations that air conservative programs would have to, in some way, present the opposing side in some fashion - and not even in equal time. I don’t think this is something that is really being pursued aggressively - again, it’s not even supported by President Elect Obama - but at the end of the day, it seems far more benign than some on the right have presented it.

While I agree that the Pelosis of the world would love for conservative radio to shut up, she likely harbors no delusions that she has the ability to shut them up. It’s just not something that passes even the briefest of constitutional smell tests.

You really think conservatives would riot over talk radio? I mean...really?

And if you want MY take on why the liberal message can’t stand on its own on radio - it’s because the left isn’t taken to the same kind of ideological rigidity as the right. There’s just no figure on the left that has ever risen to the status of having “ditto heads” like a Rush Limbaugh. The democratic party doesn’t have this sort of unity either. But that’s just MY take, based on wholly unscientific anecdotal evidence.

I’ve never gone in for liberal talk radio or the like because I think it’s intellectually shallow and favors ideological purity over reason and honest argument. I find no value in an echo chamber. I once listened to - I believe it was Randi Rhodes? - who was just laying into Bush for something benign. Now, I agreed with her politics on the subject, the premise of what she was saying - but it was SOO clear that she was stretching the truth and feigning outrage in order to fill air time. She had to talk about SOMETHING for the 4 hours she was on. I just remember getting mad that an intellectually dishonest liberal was making me mentally defend Bush - even if it was on a technicality.

Wow...this post was long. I’m overcompensating because so few others are still posting on this thread...


654 posted on 11/11/2008 5:15:06 PM PST by Traviswf
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