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To: maximustc
I am a middle aged conservative and a follower of Jesus. I traveled (airplane and driving) all day to get to my Illinois precinct to vote for McCain/Palin and Mark Kirk. I did not hear the interview you refer to, but I have given much thought and study to communication. I think we do need to listen to and not just dismiss what she is saying. We older and "wiser" conservatives need to attempt to understand the vernacular of the next generation (Obama did), so that we may have a chance at communicating with them. Through effective communication, we might just learn what it is they "get" Effective communication (interactive) certainly increases our chances of influencing the younger generations. And we just might be surprised to learn that we are closer in thought and values than we think.

What also comes to mind is a lesson learned in Scripture. When the returning Israelites returned from exile to rebuild the temple (Book of Ezra), we find the new temple foundation being laid by the younger generation. The older generation could only watched. (Ezra 3:10-13)

There were shouts of joy combined with weeping. What's interesting to note is that it was the COMBINED sound that was heard far away. It was the combined sound of all the people that the far away enemies heard. The combination of the sounds created a stronger message. Could we consider that as an option rather than drawing lines to identify "true conservatives"?

Ezra 3:10-13
“When the builders laid the foundation of the temple of the LORD, the priests in their vestments and with trumpets, and the Levites (the sons of Asaph) with cymbals, took their places to praise the LORD, as prescribed by David king of Israel. With praise and thanksgiving they sang to the LORD :
‘He is good;his love to Israel endures forever.’
And all the people gave a great shout of praise to the LORD, because the foundation of the house of the LORD was laid. But many of the older priests and Levites and family heads, who had seen the former temple, wept aloud when they saw the foundation of this temple being laid, while many others shouted for joy. No one could distinguish the sound of the shouts of joy from the sound of weeping, because the people made so much noise. And the sound was heard far away.

26 posted on 11/06/2008 6:32:13 PM PST by freeagle
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To: freeagle

Inspiring, but how does it apply to the specific issues? Do you really think that pro-choice positions are just dismissed? That it is easy to think through what it means to protect marriage?

I remember reading that most young people value marriage more highly because of the divorces that they experienced. Don’t they get it better than those that are following a fad?


28 posted on 11/06/2008 6:39:57 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: freeagle

I’m a Christian too, but your incorrect in your analysis of this. If you truly are a Christian then you will stand with millions of others that know that homosexuality is anti-God, anti-Christian. God also told us to go into the low lands and kill the people with the iron chariots, but because the Jews didn’t and had compassion on their enemies they ended up like them adulterating themselves and falling into sin. Change does not mean compromising your moral and religious beliefs. Second and most important are left wing liberals that murder. Yes! Murder innocent babies. So what does that mean can we walk up to someone and put a gun to their head and say I’m committing an abortion here; Obama said its ok. That’s what we do when we murder a baby. They have rights too and this whole socialistic approach is not what my grandparents fought for.

You need to listen to God on this one. God is not a God of disorder, but of Order!


35 posted on 11/10/2008 9:32:09 PM PST by Patriotparty (I'm a Patriot!!!)
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