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Does Obama trip to Hawaii pass the sniff test?

Posted on 10/20/2008 9:23:37 PM PDT by PaleoConCowboy

Obama's excuse for a visit to grandma's house doesn't want to pass the sniff test...

Claim 1: Obama to visit sick grandmother

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7679508.stm

US Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama is cancelling campaign events this week to visit his sick grandmother in Hawaii, an aide says.

Claim 2: Honolulu lawsuit filed to open Obama’s secret birth records

http://www.contrariancommentary.com/community/Home/tabid/36/mid/363/newsid363/283/Default.aspx

(HONOLULU, HI)(October 17, 2008) Obama nemesis and author Andy Martin filed suit in the First Circuit Court in Honolulu today seeking a court order to open Barack Obama’s secret birth records.

“One of Obama's most controversial and contentious issues that he has allowed to fester for years is the question of his birth certificate,” says Martin. "Obama has posted at least two versions, maybe more, of a 'certificate' on the Internet.

“I want to see a certified copy issued by the State of Hawaii, not one issued by the State of Obama. Why Obama won't allow direct access to his birth records is beyond me. But the closer we get to discovering the truth about Obama the more we understand why he is terrified of that truth.

“What is Obama hiding? Frankly, after being in Hawaii and conducting our first round of interviews, we think we have a clearer picture of what Obama is concealing, and why. We have more research and interviews to conduct before we can announce our opinions.

“In the meantime, I filed a lawsuit against the State of Hawaii to require the state to open Obama’s birth records. The Governor and Director of the Department of Health are named as defendants.

“The case has been docketed as number 08-1-2147-10 and assigned to Circuit Judge Bert Ayabe.


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To: blackbart.223
Another FR thread, states that inaction by Obama's attorneys, has (legally) led to an "admission" that Berg's allegations (no birth certificate, born in Kenya) are true.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110898/posts

41 posted on 10/20/2008 9:52:10 PM PDT by research99
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To: Question Liberal Authority
If anyone is going to smother grandma with a pillow, there should be no screw ups and no witnesses. This isn't something that you leave to an underling.

Now, now. It is entirely possible that smothering granny with a pillow isn't the only reason he's gone to Hawaii.

42 posted on 10/20/2008 9:52:21 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: blackbart.223
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43 posted on 10/20/2008 9:53:47 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama stands for The New United Socialist Sta'te or "TNUSSA")
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To: ncfool; MinuteGal
Regarding your post #27: That is really strange. B. Hussein Obama flies all the way to Hawaii, yet only spends an HOUR with his grandmother, the woman who raised him and sacrificed so much for him. Leaves Michelle and the kids at a hotel. Couldn't spend a couple of minutes accepting a gift (the leis) and signing a couple of autographs for some well-meaning neighbors of his grandma's.

VERY strange...

44 posted on 10/20/2008 9:53:56 PM PDT by nutmeg (Sarah Palin/Joe the Plumber 2008)
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To: Billthedrill
Now, now. It is entirely possible that smothering granny with a pillow isn't the only reason he's gone to Hawaii.

I agree. Maybe granny has the original Kenya Birth Certificate and The big o wants to get it before someone else does.

45 posted on 10/20/2008 9:55:26 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: PaleoConCowboy
If Osama HUSSEIN Obama told me the sky was blue and water was wet I'd have to check for myself....don't trust anything about the man or his party.
46 posted on 10/20/2008 9:55:58 PM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: research99
"Another FR thread, states that inaction by Obama's attorneys, has (legally) led to an "admission" that Berg's allegations (no birth certificate, born in Kenya) are true."

This may be killing two birds with one stone. Watch the sympathy angle. McCain and Palin are beating up on the poor man while grandma is sick.

47 posted on 10/20/2008 9:56:12 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: research99

Berg: “Obama & DNC Admit all Allegations”

According to Rule 36 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, a party upon whom requests for admissions have been served must respond, within 30 days, or else the matters in the requests will be automatically deemed conclusively admitted for purposes of the pending action.

On September 15, Philip Berg served Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee with a request for admissions. Barack Obama and the DNC acknowledged service in their motion for protective order, filed on October 6 in an attempt to persuade the court to stay discovery. The Federal Rules require that a response be filed within the 30-day time limit, and Barack Obama and the DNC have not. Therefore, this morning, Philip Berg will file two motions:

* A motion requesting an immediate order deeming his request for admissions served upon Barack Obama and the DNC on September 15 admitted, and

* A motion requesting an expedited ruling and/or hearing on Berg’s motion deeming the request for admissions served upon Obama and the DNC admitted.

Berg contends that the failure to respond and serve the response within the time limit is “damning,” and made two appearances overnight on Rollye James’ talk radio program, the second one coming shortly after midnight, during which he disclosed the meat of today’s filings and the ramifications the defendants’ failure to respond may have.

“They did not file answers or objections or anything else to the request for admissions we served upon them on September 15,” Berg said to me shortly before midnight, noting that Obama and the DNC did in fact acknowledge service of the admission in their motion for protective order. “They knew the admissions were due. They knew they must object or answer specifically in 30 days. Here, they did nothing.”

Typically, requests can be used to ascertain three types of information: (1) the veracity of facts, (2) the authenticity of documents, or (3) the “application of law to fact.” Pretty much anything not privileged is fair game, and while the idea behind such a request is to obtain information, requests for admissions of facts and of the genuine nature of documents are generally not designed as a part of discovery, per se, but rather more of a mechanism used to whittle down proof later in the proceedings.

Unless permitted by the court or allowed pursuant to a written agreement between the parties, the party served with the request must serve a response within 30 days. How serious is a failure to respond? This, from PreTrial, by Thomas A. Mauet:

The automatic provision of Rule 36 makes it a formidable weapon because inertia or inattentiveness can have an automatic, and usually devastating, consequence. Hence, there is one cardinal rule for practice under this provision: Make sure you respond and serve the response within the 30-day period.

Just what were some of the admissions that Berg asserts Barack Obama and the DNC have, at least procedurally, admitted to?

* Admit you were born in Kenya.
* Admit you are a Kenya “natural born” citizen.
* Admit your foreign birth was registered in the State of Hawaii.
* Admit your father, Barrack Hussein Obama, Sr., admitted Paternity of you.
* Admit your mother gave birth to you in Mombosa, Kenya.
* Admit your mother’s maiden name is Stanley Ann Dunham a/k/a Ann Dunham.
* Admit the COLB [Certification of Live Birth] posted on the website “Fightthesmears.com” is a forgery.
* Admit you were adopted by a Foreign Citizen.
* Admit you were adopted by Lolo Soetoro, M.A. a citizen of Indonesia.
* Admit you were not born in Hawaii.
* Admit you are a citizen of Indonesia.
* Admit you never took the “Oath of Allegiance” to regain your U.S. Citizenship status.
* Admit you are not a “natural born” United States citizen.
* Admit your senior campaign staff is aware you are not a “natural born” United States Citizen.
* Admit the United States Constitution does not allow for a Person to hold the office of President of the United States unless that person is a “natural born” United States citizen.
* Admit you are ineligible pursuant to the United States Constitution to serve as President and/or Vice President of the United States.

Quite obviously, this is developing....

Posted to America’s Right by Jeff Schreiber


48 posted on 10/20/2008 9:57:41 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama stands for The New United Socialist Sta'te or "TNUSSA")
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To: PaleoConCowboy
Berg: "Obama & DNC Admit all Allegations"
http://www.americasright.com/2008/10/berg-obama-dnc-admit-all-allegations.html

According to Rule 36 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, a party upon whom requests for admissions have been served must respond, within 30 days, or else the matters in the requests will be automatically deemed conclusively admitted for purposes of the pending action.

SNIP: Just what were some of the admissions that Berg asserts Barack Obama and the DNC have, at least procedurally, admitted to?

* Admit you were born in Kenya.
* Admit you are a Kenya “natural born” citizen.
* Admit your foreign birth was registered in the State of Hawaii.
* Admit your father, Barrack Hussein Obama, Sr., admitted Paternity of you.
* Admit your mother gave birth to you in Mombosa, Kenya.
* Admit your mother’s maiden name is Stanley Ann Dunham a/k/a Ann Dunham.
* Admit the COLB [Certification of Live Birth] posted on the website “Fightthesmears.com” is a forgery.
* Admit you were adopted by a Foreign Citizen.
* Admit you were adopted by Lolo Soetoro, M.A. a citizen of Indonesia.
* Admit you were not born in Hawaii.
* Admit you are a citizen of Indonesia.
* Admit you never took the “Oath of Allegiance” to regain your U.S. Citizenship status.
* Admit you are not a “natural born” United States citizen.
* Admit your senior campaign staff is aware you are not a “natural born” United States Citizen.
* Admit the United States Constitution does not allow for a Person to hold the office of President of the United States unless that person is a “natural born” United States citizen.
* Admit you are ineligible pursuant to the United States Constitution to serve as President and/or Vice President of the United States.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110898/posts

49 posted on 10/20/2008 9:57:53 PM PDT by A_Niceguy_in_CA (McCain/Palin - Maverick Reformers)
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To: igoramus08
Good grief... who is "Cone"? (I know all about Wright and Black Liberation Theology)

I can't keep all these Obama thugs straight...

50 posted on 10/20/2008 9:58:47 PM PDT by nutmeg (Sarah Palin/Joe the Plumber 2008)
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To: PaleoConCowboy

If I were Andy Martin, I would watch my back with obama on the way to Hawaii.


51 posted on 10/20/2008 9:59:05 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: ncfool

Good one.


52 posted on 10/20/2008 9:59:24 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: expatguy

See #49


53 posted on 10/20/2008 9:59:41 PM PDT by nutmeg (Sarah Palin/Joe the Plumber 2008)
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To: PaleoConCowboy
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54 posted on 10/20/2008 9:59:56 PM PDT by Caper29
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To: nutmeg

James Cone is the inventor of Black Liberation Theology. You can youtube or google him for his videos and quotes.


55 posted on 10/20/2008 10:01:28 PM PDT by igoramus08
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To: rfreedom4u
"What is wrong with the “typical white lady” that he has to go see her?"

Is she clinging bitterly to her bible and her guns?

Oh wait!!! I just checked to see if his grandmother was a Christian and apparently she has changed her story in the last year. A year ago she was a Muslim, now she claims to be a Christian.

Obama's Grandmother changes story on what her faith is

I'm not familiar with this blogger.

56 posted on 10/20/2008 10:03:15 PM PDT by DannyTN (`)
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To: DannyTN
Oh wait!!! I just checked to see if his grandmother was a Christian and apparently she has changed her story in the last year. A year ago she was a Muslim, now she claims to be a Christian.

That's the wrong granny.
57 posted on 10/20/2008 10:07:19 PM PDT by WackySam (The Constitution is not an a la carte menu.)
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To: WackySam

58 posted on 10/20/2008 10:09:42 PM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: RasterMaster

Sarah Obama, a devout Muslim, was quoted telling Obama Jr. “What your grandfather respected was strength. Discipline. This is also why he rejected the Christian religion, I think. For a brief time he converted [to Christianity], and even changed his name to Johnson. But he could not understand such ideas as mercy towards your enemies, or that this man Jesus could wash away a man’s sins. To your grandfather, this was a foolish sentiment, something to comfort women. And so he converted to Islam-he thought its practices conformed more closely to his beliefs.”

Obama Jr’s grandfather, for whom he was given the middle name, Hussein, was “fiercely devoted to Islam.” He had at least 3 wives: Helima, who had no children, Akuma who gave birth to Sarah Obama, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. and Auma Obama. The third wife was Sarah, who Obama Jr. refers to as his “grandmother.” Sarah became the primary care giver for Senior after his mother, Akuma, left the family when her children were still young.

At 18, Obama Jr’s father, Barack Obama Sr. (Senior), married a girl called Kezia from a local village.

http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan08/obama_lou%20tribe.htm


59 posted on 10/20/2008 10:11:29 PM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: teletech
“I agree. Maybe granny has the original Kenya Birth Certificate and The big o wants to get it before someone else does. “

OR destroy any pictures and incriminating evidence, records if she passes......

60 posted on 10/20/2008 10:12:22 PM PDT by IndianPrincessOK (McCain/Palin...2 pit bulls, one with lipstick! Pigs will fly with lipstick Nov. 4th)
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