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Top Gun vs. UFO (encounter revealed in files declassified today; pilot confirms)
The Sun (U.K.) ^ | October 20, 2008 | John Coles

Posted on 10/20/2008 3:44:51 AM PDT by Stoat

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Top Gun vs. UFO

 
Locked on ... Sabre jet had UFO in sights

Locked on ... Sabre jet had UFO in sights

 

 
 
 

A FORMER Top Gun told yesterday how he was ordered to shoot down a massive UFO — over NORWICH.

RAF controllers told US pilot Milton Torres to “lock on” and launch all 24 of his rockets over the city.

 

Tale ... Milton Torres as a young man, and today

Tale ... Milton Torres as a young man, and today

 

But as he came within seconds of firing at the alien intruder — “the size of an aircraft carrier” on his radar — it vanished at 10,000mph.

The amazing close encounter is revealed in secret Ministry of Defence X-Files which are declassified today.

Milton said: “It was some kind of alien snooping over England. I guess we’ll never know what it was.”

The incident happened in 1957 when Milton was a 26-year-old US Air Force lieutenant based at RAF Manston in Kent.

At 11pm one night he was ordered to scramble in his F-86D Sabre fighter to attack a “bogey” hovering above Norfolk.

Speaking about it publicly for the first time, he said: “I was told I would be firing a complete salvo, all 24 rockets. I was pumped up — this was the sort of thing that happened before a war.”

 

He got the UFO on his radar and closed for the attack at the Sabre’s top speed of almost 700mph — then it disappeared off his screen in a flash.

 

Milton, now 77, said: “I was smoking, as fast as I could go. This thing had a different propulsion system. It was not an airplane.”

 

The flyer said he was visited afterwards by a sinister security official and warned not to tell anyone — so he kept silent until now.

 

The close encounter is in 19 files made available online yesterday by the National Archives.

 

j.coles@the-sun.co.uk



TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: closeencounter; topgun; ufo
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To: Quix
The FOOTAGE has now been released, MUST SEE !!!
121 posted on 10/20/2008 8:47:00 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: seemoAR

INDEED.

There were a lot of photos of the DC thing as well as the LA 1950’s event . . . and then there’s the AZ flyover 10 years ago.

China and India and Brazil etc. have all had their interesting events aplenty.

AT this point, only the WILLFULLY IGNORANT fail to see the neon handwriting on multiple walls.

80% of citizens know better.


122 posted on 10/20/2008 8:48:06 AM PDT by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Scythian

Thanks. Will check it out.


123 posted on 10/20/2008 8:49:55 AM PDT by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Scythian

Don’t bother folks

It’s an interesting video . . . and probably mimics a number of events.

But it’s been outted as a CGI production.


124 posted on 10/20/2008 8:51:18 AM PDT by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Quix

You can’t just expect us to accept your claim with no proof. Let’s see the evidence your relative accumulated while working daily with space ships. Surely he sneaked out a warp drive or something. Or maybe at least a photo(shop.)


125 posted on 10/20/2008 8:54:35 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Quix

I meant it as humor


126 posted on 10/20/2008 8:57:14 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Quix

Hey Quix! Long time no “see”. I looked on Stanton.s website but couldn’t find the article you mentioned about him “shredding” the Drake Equation. Do you by any chance have a link to that article?
I, personally, have always thought that the so - called Drake Equation was nothing more than a W.A.G.


127 posted on 10/20/2008 8:58:05 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: thefactor

Caption at source:

One of Colwell's "The Chiefs" 335th FIW F-86 jets landing at Kimpo AFB

On the other hand:

Caption at source:

F-86 Landing

Note that in the first picture, the aircraft is still in the air; in the second it has already landed. The bit about the ejection seat was speculation on the part of the other poster, which I am unable to confirm.

128 posted on 10/20/2008 8:59:39 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: BnBlFlag

If I get done with my class prep early enough, I’ll try and find it for you.

You might try searching his site with Drake Equation.


129 posted on 10/20/2008 9:11:29 AM PDT by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: mysterio

I don’t give that much of a rip what naysayers accept.

Folks who are so willfully blind and in so much denial don’t deserve a lot of my time and effort.

I HAVE studied it since 1962.

I DO have such a relative.

I HAVE talked to maybe a dozen or more internationally acclaimed high quality researchers including Japan’s best.

etc. etc. etc.

Feel free to continue your flat-earth perspective on UFO’s.

Personally, I like ATS’ motto:

DENY IGNORANCE.

However, I have no interest in doing naysayer’s homework.

I once posted some peer review scientific journal articles in a standard high quality scientific journal of examination of crop circle plants vs same plants in same field outside the crop circle.

The naysayers responses were totally idiotic.

Totally willfully blind.

Totally ignorant.

Totally clueless.

Enough already yet.

They can continue to enjoy the view of the darkness from where their heads are as far as I’m concerned.

Reality will force a paradigm shift soon enough. Until then, they are occasionally slightly fun to play with around the edges.

But mostly, their denial, willful blindness etc. are ghastly.

Swallowing the government and MSM line on something is also

NOT very conservative.

And believing the government when it’s obviously lying and wrong is not very patriotic.


130 posted on 10/20/2008 9:17:06 AM PDT by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Lonesome

That is not a picture of an F-86D.


131 posted on 10/20/2008 9:19:59 AM PDT by saminfl (conservative since 1964)
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To: Blueflag
(Sabres could not carry 24 air-to-air anything except gun rounds)

Actually 24 2.75 inch "Mighty Mouse" rockets were the only armament the F-86D carried.

132 posted on 10/20/2008 9:23:31 AM PDT by saminfl (conservative since 1964)
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To: 84rules
Ummm. Can someone confirm that an F-86 can actually carry 24 rockets much less “lock-on” and fire all of the simultaneously?

The pilot could select 6, 12 or 24. The rockets were carried in a belly pod. This was the only fighter aircraft at the time that had an electronic fuel control system. The system used vacuum tubes, and the best way to test it was to turn the master switch on, hit the start button and at 6 percent rpm, throw the throttle into afterburner. Of course you were really standing on the brakes.

133 posted on 10/20/2008 9:27:55 AM PDT by saminfl (conservative since 1964)
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To: Quix

The USSR called anyone who reported seeing a UFO an enemy of the State. No one reported a sighting after that. :0)


134 posted on 10/20/2008 9:31:15 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: Quix
I DO have such a relative.

Prove it. Let's see the evidence.

And believing the government when it’s obviously lying and wrong is not very patriotic.

There's nothing unpatriotic about not believing that space monsters are galaxy hopping through wormholes to abduct schizophrenics from Earth.
135 posted on 10/20/2008 9:31:22 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: saminfl

I forgot to mention that it also used the Hughes E-1 fire control radar which told the pilot when to launch.


136 posted on 10/20/2008 9:31:37 AM PDT by saminfl (conservative since 1964)
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To: saminfl; All

duplicate evidently but with more info:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110266/posts


137 posted on 10/20/2008 9:34:40 AM PDT by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: silverleaf
My dad was at Kadena, but up on Yontan Mtn. (my spelling may be off) rather than the tower. IIRC, he communicated mostly with B-29's departing for and returning from missions over Korea while they were outside the tower's control, but also with the fighters out of Naha that were on patrol over Okinawa (particularly the night fighters, as the radar in the F-82's was not all that powerful or reliable).

Mr. niteowl77

138 posted on 10/20/2008 10:13:30 AM PDT by niteowl77 (The niteowl77s: parents who support those who support their soldier.)
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To: mysterio

I have no

NEED

to prove my assertions—particularly about my relative.

Linda Moulton Howe interviewed him along the way but I only found about about that after the fact and have never tried to find it on her site—not being a paying customer and all. Besides, he’d already told me everything he told her.

In terms of swallowing the MSM’s swill . . . about

anything

I’ve increasingly come to the conclusion that folks that believe the MSM about anything beyond the obvious are likely too gullible to be trusted in a dangerous situation.

And quite ripe for being deluded by the globalist MSM’s goons.


139 posted on 10/20/2008 10:18:28 AM PDT by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: mysterio

It will be much more fun to watch the clueless naysayers’ jaws drop to their shoes in due course.

In terms of schizophrenics . . . I suspect my PhD in clinical psychology could match anything you’d offer in terms of training or expertise in assessing such.

Then there’s the research that shows that UFO abductees are slightly more healthy mentally and slightly higher in IQ than the average in the general population.

They do, show, however, some signs of PTSD.

quite understandably.


140 posted on 10/20/2008 10:21:56 AM PDT by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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