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To: MikeFrancesa.com
I was strictly talking about the electoral college

Really? Here is your exact statement...:
Technically Bush won in 2004 by about 140,000 votes in Ohio

The EC does not enter into that statement.

I’m sure there was fraud on both ends

Please cite cases where republican fraud was prosecuted. I may have missed them, but every allegation I followed, charging the pubs with voter fraud, were found to have no merit as there was no evidence to be found to substantiate the charges.

however Kerry lost states by a close margin as well.

Yes, j Effin lost 4 states by close margins:
IA -1% w/ 1.5 mil votes cast & 7 EV
NV -3% w/ 829,000 votes cast & 5 EV
NM -1% w/ 750,000+ votes cast & 5 EV
CO +4% w/ 1,133,000 votes cast & 9EV

j Effin ONLY won 19 states; 4 states with more than 10% and 3 w/ little more than 20%:
IL by 10.34%
CT by -11%
MD by -13%
NY by 18.25%

VT by 20.14%
RI by -21%
MA by +25%

With the aforementioned 6 states that he won with 4% or less and those I posted above, that leaves 6 other states that he won with somewhere between 4-10%.

Meanwhile, PRESIDENT Bush won 31 states;
8 with more than 10%
7 w/ more than 20%
5 w/ more than 30% and
1 with more than 40% of the votes cast.

That leaves 6 states he won with somewhere between 4-10%.

Why did you join FR, Mike? Was it for the BDS Club?

74 posted on 10/18/2008 9:31:27 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody

Just a Nobody, are you going to act like Daily Kos and accuse me of Bush Derangement Syndrome because I stated that if John Kerry flipped 140,000 votes in Ohio he would have been President. Yes, that is correct, I WAS and AM talking about the electoral college. Figure it out and get back to me.

Look through my posts and you will learn why I joined but because a majority here are tolerant of other views, I will not get on a soapbox and defend myself.

It is all about the EC, correct me if I am wrong but in order to win a state you have to garner a majority of the votes, so when I state that the difference was Ohio, it means that if Bush lost Ohio, he loses the election, not rocket science.

If you don’t think that both sides don’t engage in voter fraud then you are walking around blind without a cane but since I have not studied this issue I will defer to you on this issue, which I stated in the earlier post.

The reason why I focused on Ohio is because it is the only state that could have flipped the election that was won by less than 3 percent.

Now if Kerry would have won, it would have been correct to say that if Bush would have won PA and that was less than 3 percent, he would have been President, the amount of states won is meaningful but irrelevant in terms of the electoral college because of population.

But as I stated previously, I’m not looking to fight, but if someone on this website is critical of Bush, don’t automatically smear them, unless you are a Bush cheerleader that thinks every decision he has made is gold, which is fine if you are like that, but just consider that many Americans don’t think Bush is infallible and they have every right making a critical statement of a particular decision without being tarred and feathered by you.


78 posted on 10/18/2008 5:18:34 PM PDT by MikeFrancesa.com (www.war69.com)
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