We've been discussing geometric physics and concerning time, the consequence of two dimensions of time.
Among other things, such theories offer a better explanation of Bell's inequalities at distance.
Quantum entanglement is where the quantum states of two or more objects have to be described with reference to one another regardless of the extent to which they may be spatially separated. Which is to say the measurement of one of two entangled photons will determine the other even if it is 10 kilometers away, on the moon, in another galaxy, etc.
In four dimensions (one temporal, three spatial) it violates the speed of light limitation. And as Penrose pointed out, it also suggests a paradox when both of the entangled photons are simultaneously measured. With two time dimensions, there is no issue.
By the way, because experiments (up to 10 kilometers) confirmed the phenomenon – there was a great deal of hope for superluminal communications. However, the no-cloning theorem forbids creation of identical copies of an unknown quantum state therefore no error correction, computing or communications at superluminal speeds. Even so, the non-cloning theorem and quantum entanglement offers a great solution for quantum cryptography, i.e. no one could “eavesdrop” on the quantum superluminal cryptographic key.
The bottom line is that one must lay aside presuppositions of a timeline, arrow of time, speed of light limitation, light cones etc. when dealing with two or more time dimension theories.
From a theological point of view, the theories also suggest that God - being beyond space and time - sees past present and future all at once and moreover, that He has creative power over physical causation "in" space/time of however many dimensions. For instance, a change in the future instantly effects the past and present because they are concurrent on the time plane (or cube, etc.) And such a change would obviously be completely undetectable to observers "in" space and time.
No doubt such speculations involving two or more time dimensions have been fodder for many science fiction scripts as well as mysticism involving precognition, retro-cognition, remote viewing, etc.
We've been discussing geometric physics and concerning time, the consequence of two dimensions of time.
Hmm, you just said it again, two dimensions of time. And from here,
Sat Oct 25 00:07:29 2008 · 963 of 1,007 Alamo-Girl to LeGrande; Fichori Oh, and I should mention that the speed limit of the universe is based on four dimensional relativity. Add one more dimension of time and you must think in terms of a plane instead of a line - past, present and future are concurrent on the plane.
The Four dimensions of relativity includes time (x,y,z,t), and you are adding a second "time" to the equations? I am not questioning you, I am simply trying to understand what you are saying.
In four dimensions (one temporal, three spatial) it violates the speed of light limitation. And as Penrose pointed out, it also suggests a paradox when both of the entangled photons are simultaneously measured. With two time dimensions, there is no issue.
So you are again calling for two temporal states? Bells Theorem implicitly shows how no information is transmitted faster than the speed of light so their is no contradiction in our standard relativistic universe.
The bottom line is that one must lay aside presuppositions of a timeline, arrow of time, speed of light limitation, light cones etc. when dealing with two or more time dimension theories.
Yes, but it is only necessary to deal with multiple dimensions if you can show that information can be sent faster than the speed of light.
From a theological point of view, the theories also suggest that God - being beyond space and time - sees past present and future all at once and moreover, that He has creative power over physical causation "in" space/time of however many dimensions. For instance, a change in the future instantly effects the past and present because they are concurrent on the time plane (or cube, etc.) And such a change would obviously be completely undetectable to observers "in" space and time.
How would you demonstrate an effect from outside space and time, inside space and time?