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To: Soliton; betty boop; metmom; MrB; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; Elsie; Arthur Wildfire! March


One simply used a different spark generator. The second injected steam onto the sparks.


In other words, they still required some kind of intelligent tweaking.

Thanks.

9 posted on 10/17/2008 8:18:11 AM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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In other words, they still required some kind of intelligent tweaking.

If you consider volcanoes intelligent, then yes.

12 posted on 10/17/2008 8:23:28 AM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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From post #8: “All you need is a means of assembling these into proteins.”

That’s like saying, “ Here are some metal ores and crude oil. All you need is a means of assembling them into computer parts.”


23 posted on 10/17/2008 8:55:00 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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The original samples used by Stanley Miller to study the origins of life. In 1953, Stanley L. Miller, then a graduate student of Harold C. Urey at the University of Chicago, put ammonia, methane and hydrogen — the gases believed to be in early Earth’s atmosphere — along with water in a sealed flask and applied electrical sparks to simulate the effects of lightning. A week later, amino acids, the building blocks of proteins, were generated out of the simple molecules.

I just love how scientists claim that sparks and lightning created life considering all the evidence of what lightning does to rocks, trees, and people these days.

44 posted on 10/17/2008 3:56:17 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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“Abiogenesis is the theory that under the proper conditions life can arise spontaneously from non-living molecules. One of the most widely cited studies used to support this conclusion is the famous Miller–Urey experiment. Surveys of textbooks find that the Miller–Urey study is the major (or only) research cited to prove abiogenesis. Although widely heralded for decades by the popular press as ‘proving’ that life originated on the early earth entirely under natural conditions, we now realize the experiment actually provided compelling evidence for the opposite conclusion. It is now recognized that this set of experiments has done more to show that abiogenesis on Earth is not possible than to indicate how it could be possible. This paper reviews some of the many problems with this research, which attempted to demonstrate a feasible method of abiogenesis on the early earth.” [excerpt: Why the Miller–Urey research argues against abiogenesis]

47 posted on 10/17/2008 11:53:04 PM PDT by Fichori (ironic: adj. 1 Characterized by or constituting irony. 2 Obamy getting beat up by a girl.)
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