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To: Non-Sequitur

Well - that’s the question. I have seen states issue birth certificates - but the proof of the actual birth in the state was never given - except for some purpose of saying that the child was delivered at home - and not in the hospital. If he was delivered at a hospital in Hawaii - then there should be a separate (non-official) one issued. I know I have both from the hospital and state.

Just asking if this seems to be weird - that the one on the website is brand new - but states nothing about the actual place of birth other than Hawaii the island - what hospital was he born at?


6 posted on 10/16/2008 4:23:30 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com)
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To: BCW

What it would show is that there is a Hawaii record of his birth, as given to them by his parent.

But it would also show WHERE he was born.


17 posted on 10/16/2008 4:28:30 AM PDT by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: BCW

EVERY state issues an offical Birth Certificate complete with the state seal, every state. So please resist the twist.

As I mentioned the cert of Live Birth has been proven to be someone else’s.

If this were real they would have turned it over to the court in PA. But if they do it’s a criminal act. This story is getting traction, newspapers are writing and now I think there are suits in several states.

The title of your website appears to be leftist, babelyons covert war.


25 posted on 10/16/2008 4:37:05 AM PDT by stockpirate (Herbert Hoover, "Every collectivist revolution rides in on a Trojan horse of 'Emergency.'")
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To: BCW

What is weird is that the question of the Marxist Onada’s birth country is still a question at this stage of the Presidential Campaign.

When I faced with this kind of conundrum, I ask myself what a reasonable person would do to answer the question.

A reasonable person, IMO, would produce a birth document that states where he/she was born. Most of us are born in a hospital. The parents are given a birth certificate, with an official embossed seal, stating where and when the birth occured. In other words the baby was born in such and such hospital in Teaneck, NJ, USA.

Of course American parents give birth all over the world. I’m not sure how it works if American parents birth a baby in, say, a Nepalese hospital. Perhaps someone else can weigh in on that situation.

But if American parents overseas are members of the diplomatic corps or US military they will normally give birth in US Army, Navy and Air Force “field” hospitals. These field hospitals are considered US Soil. It was the case with one of my sons who was born in Germany and another who was born in Thailand.

It was also the case with McCain having been born in the Panama Canal Zone. You may recall that early on after the Marxist Onada was named Dem Pres. candidiate, the dems tried make a big deal out of McCain being born in the Panama Canal Zone. This was a dishonest attempt by the Marxist Onada camp to call into question McCain’s country of birth. And it was in direct response to the questions about the Marxist Onada’s birth country. The Senator was born in a US Navy field hospital. There was never any legitimate question of his birth country.

I should also point out that the original legal action taken to force the Marxist Onada to produce a valid birth certificate was brought by Hillery Clintoon supporters. It is still being pursued.

All developed nations and many so-called third world countries have a birth documentation process in place. There is an international protocol that governs what info should be included in a birth certificate for it to be considered valid. Country of birth is essential because it can impact on people down the road.

For example, two of my sons who were born overseas held dual US-German and US-Thai citizenship, respectively. My wife and I chose to annul my first son’s German citizenship. Why did we annul the German citizenship? Germany had a military draft in effect when my son was born there in 1966. If I had made the US Army a career it was possible I could be ordered to duty in Germany again. Hence, without annuling the German citizenship he could be eligible for German military draft. We didn’t bother anulling the Thai citizenship for the second boy, because it didn’t seem likely we or he would return there again. Thailand, too, had a draft.

My point: If the Marxist Onada was born on “US Soil” the information on the birth certificate would be governed by international protocol. It would include country of birth. As he apparently cannot produce the appropriate document, I believe it can be inferred he is not a US citizen.

The Marxist Onada appears to be unable to produce a birth certificate that documents where he was born. If such a document existed isn’t it reasonable to expect that the Marxist Onada, with the help of the dem shill media, would have plastered broadsides of the thing in every paper in the country—and broadcast it on the electronic media a well?

So, the question remains—where is it?


65 posted on 10/16/2008 7:18:11 AM PDT by dools007
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