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What about the one that the hospital issues so that the govt knows that one was actually born on the physical soil?

Just having issued by Hawaii doesn't mean his mom applied for it later.

Can anyone shed light on this?

BCW

1 posted on 10/16/2008 4:12:46 AM PDT by BCW
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If he wasn't born in Hawaii then why would they have issued him a birth certificate?
2 posted on 10/16/2008 4:17:21 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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Ask anyone, that BC has been already proven to not be the original nor do people from Hawaii say it is legit either, its rather odd.


3 posted on 10/16/2008 4:19:39 AM PDT by sunmars
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Look at the bottom of the page:

“Paid for by Obama for America”

This document is covered in Berg’s suit. There needs to be a repost of a real Hawaii birth certificate from that era....huge difference. obama can have one of those produced if he actually has one.


4 posted on 10/16/2008 4:20:42 AM PDT by Doug TX
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Have you ever seen anything like this? A simple birth certificate is a hurdle to the Obama-con. I wonder why it's so tough to just produce the zero costs original documents?

Nothing to see here, just move along. Don't forget to wear your ACORN helmet when out and about these next few weeks. The Obama-cons will be falling like rain -- if you get hit on the head with one of the Obama-cons dropped by the drive by media, it can really hurt. Chin straps are advised.

5 posted on 10/16/2008 4:22:37 AM PDT by Tarpon (Barrack Obama will ban all the guns he has the votes for ...)
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Ping


7 posted on 10/16/2008 4:23:45 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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That document has been debunked as fake but accruate by Dan Rather.

You should follow on this guy Berg's lawsuit.

8 posted on 10/16/2008 4:24:32 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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Welcome newbie.

Hope you’re not a troll. We’ll see.

If the BC was real they would have given it to the judge handling rhe case.

The first doc posted was proven to be a fraud, as this one will be too. Only because they haven’t provided it to the courts, because if they do it’s a crime, probley a felony.


9 posted on 10/16/2008 4:24:45 AM PDT by stockpirate (Herbert Hoover, "Every collectivist revolution rides in on a Trojan horse of 'Emergency.'")
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All of the copies I've seen from Obama's web site, KOS, and Fight the Smears have been altered using Adobe software. That could be the result of blacking out the serial number, I suppose.
What interests me is the fact that the document from Obama's web site has the letters 'OHSM' in the lower left.
The document from Fight the Smears has 'OHBM' in the lower left.
Hey Obama, whazzup with that?
10 posted on 10/16/2008 4:25:34 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (HM2 USN M/3/3 Marines RVN 66/67)
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Things like this, Ayers, and the Acorn fraud are the reason the democrats are becoming ever more shrill in their demands that we talk about “real issues” like the economy. When democrats become shrill, it means you’re getting close to the truth the want hidden.


13 posted on 10/16/2008 4:26:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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Yes, it is true.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrs2006/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0008.HTM

[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]


15 posted on 10/16/2008 4:27:27 AM PDT by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles

Many posts about this from many months ago.

Take a look!


18 posted on 10/16/2008 4:30:07 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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The COLB posted at fight the smears is real enough for the DNC to spend $10’s of thousands of dollars fighting a lawsuit in Federal Court from a dyed-in-the-wool democrat demanding Obama produce a valid, Hawaiian State COLB.


19 posted on 10/16/2008 4:32:25 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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His grandmother says she witnessed his birth in Kenya. One of his relatives here says he was born in one Hawaiian hospital while he says he was born in another. There is a newpaper birth notice but that doesn’t state where he was born. In my own baby book there are several newspaper announcements from several cities but obviously I couldn’t have been born in all of them. The most telling is that he has failed to give the original to the judge 5 minutes after the suit was filed and be done with it.


20 posted on 10/16/2008 4:35:35 AM PDT by itsthejourney (1 of every 10 people you pass in the mall is here illegally)
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Apparently there is now a suit about his citizenship in Washington state. What if there was a suit filed in every state? Wouldn’t that stop him?


21 posted on 10/16/2008 4:35:54 AM PDT by Misschuck
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I don’t buy it.

If Obama or any of his flunkies had a real birth certificate that would stand up in court they would PRODUCING it in court rather than paying some very expensive lawyers big bucks to fight the suits aimed at forcing him to produce it.

It’s not rocket science.

There can be only two reasons why they have chosen to fight rather than hand it over. Either they don’t have it, or they have it and it says something they don’t want the public to know.


23 posted on 10/16/2008 4:36:31 AM PDT by Ronin
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From TD Blog - http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/okay-so-you-tell-me-where-he-was-born/#more-3880

YOU TELL ME where Obama was born. Give me the name of the hospital, and tell me who was present. What witnesses signed his original Birth Certificate. What was the name of the doctor who delivered him? All of this should be visible on the the vaulted long-version of his Birth Certificate — one of the basic documents requested by Berg.

So - under Hawaii law - which was posted above - thank you for that - the Obama’s went there knowing that they could get a BC for their child - hoping that such questions as posed here on Free Republic would be null and void?

That’s what it looks like to me. — If I ran for POUS - I could answer everyone of those questions and post my original documents - it seems that a man being groomed for such political offices would somehow displace these important records???


24 posted on 10/16/2008 4:36:56 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com)
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Pooooor. Barak


39 posted on 10/16/2008 4:53:00 AM PDT by Waco ( G00d bye 0'bomber)
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This is way too clean-looking for a 1961 BC. This looks like a computerized copy.


41 posted on 10/16/2008 5:03:12 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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The truth is, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America.

Prove it with an original document that is legitimate

42 posted on 10/16/2008 5:11:06 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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If he was adopted, that is not his birth certificate unless it is an amended certificate that was changed if he petitioned to court to change his name back to Obama. (Courts do not overturn adoptions easily) No way. No how. If he was adopted, that certificate would be sealed.

That birth certificate is the kind you get when you send for a certified one years later. I do not see a raised stamp.


47 posted on 10/16/2008 5:27:03 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Stand Up Chuck!)
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