Posted on 10/13/2008 4:49:43 PM PDT by sig226
I wasn’t discussing milsups. I was trying to explain you shouldn’t buy the fancy refurbished and restamped collectible in the really cool looking wooden box.
A hundred dollar Mosin Nagant and a thousand rounds of ammo is an excellent choice.
Enjoy:
http://62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinHumor.htm
He does it with a 8X scope. I need my 40X to locate it then I can find it with my 20X. Hitting it is a whole nother story, especially on windy or cloudy days.
I was going to get a SOCOM. But they are pricey, some heavy, and expensive to feed. I had a Colt AR, mags and ammo. So I spent my “stimulus” on a DPMS shorty. Nice and light, uses stuff I already have. EOtech sight and it is good for urban areas.
I agree, those long shots are the big leagues. And somewhat rare. For those, my bolt guns. But the ARs are fine out to 300 yds for anti personnel. Regardless, I still want a SOCOM. FRegards.
Please. The first gun I bought was my 700 30.06. Still only needs a compass mounted on it to shoot groups to 300 yds and more. My 700 .308 tactical shoots better than I can hold it, even with surplus FMJ loads.
Now I don't claim to be a great shot. But I have out shot every braggart I ever came across. And usually with that 30.06. My favorite 165 gr handload shoots pretty tight for a sporter weight barrel.
I had to cash in a few Krugerrands to pay for mine, but gold is a luxury, a rifle is a necessity.
The last time I fired a M14-type rifle, it was a real M14, in AIT. By then, everybody went through Basic with the M16. The M14 was a rude awakening for a lot of troops, even though that was their first and last encounter with it.
Since I had already shot lots of bolt action rifles, the M14 was no big deal for me, although I wasn't that impressed with it, either.
Cut the barrel down to 16 inches, put a super-efficient muzzle brake on it and an electronic scope, and it becomes an accurate, fun-to-shoot high-power plinker. Neither my nephew nor my cousin ever shot a centerfire rifle before then, and they were both getting first-round hits, although the Aimpoint helped out there. I didn't tell them until after we were done that they were shooting what is now considered a full-sized battle rifle. No complaints from them, just big smiles.
LOL. Good stuff.
There is about a paragraph on machine guns, stating that they would have very limited use due to the difficulty of supplying ammunition.
There is no mention of barbed wire.
if you end up looking at stock bolt guns, you gotta check out the savage tactical rifles. i’ve got a 110fp, cost is comparable to a rem 700, and less than an A-bolt, and it shoots every bit as good as either of them, if not better.
I have a ‘95 Chilean in the same caliber, very accurate but the metric sight does take some getting use to!
LOL, I just got an AK so I enjoyed your link!
Mt Browning previously had taken care of the problem of portability for the horse soldiers with his air-cooled Colt-Browning Model of 1895. These eventually served the U.S. Military in the 6mm Lee U.S. Navy cartridge, that of the .30-40 Krag, the origiunal .30 1903 chambering of the Model 1904 Springfield Rifle and the modification of that cartridge into the .30-'06, which served the U.S. military during two world wars. The original Infantry gun design was modified into an aircraft gun by Marlin for WWI, then into a tank gun design that served America's Armoured Cavelry Corps until Browning's Model 1917 and 1919 designs came along.
I once observed a Model '95 *Potato Digger* that had been converted to the 7.62 NATO cartridge by the Army Ordnance Depaertment in the late 1950s, and I've always wanted to get one and a hatfull of M249 SAW links and convert one to 5.56mm/.223 just to bring the old design kicking and screaming into the XXI Century.
It's also worth noting that during the 09 March 1916 Pancho Villa early morning raid on Columbus, New Mexico, F Troop of the U.S. 13th Cavalry Regiment was garrisoned there, along with four M1909 Benet-Mercie machine-rifles and my maternal grandfather. Ten of the soldiers were killed during the attack, four more later dying of wounds, and though the horse troop machinegunners had some problems getting the guns with which they were minimally trained into action, once they began their work the banditos suffered some 80 dead or mortally wounded, mostly from those U.S. machine gun emplacements, expending some 20,000 rounds by 07:30 that morning when Villa's troops finally withdrew after setting fire to the center of the town.
Extractor breakage, which requires specialist tools and fixtures to repair, has also been a problem of the M700 design, particularly in military usage.
There is no mention of barbed wire.
Does he mention the German flammenwerfer?
..practice, practice, practice.
Clips, clips, clips. Get them now, they ain't available at your local Wal-Mart.
Since you're presumably located in California, there are legal restrictions in that state on the magazines for some rifles that might otherwise serve you well.
One that is apparantly still legal there, for now at least, is the M1 Garand, which you can obtain from this source for at little as $495.00"
So can his pal Paul Huff.
FT. OGLETHORPE, GA - TENNESSEE'S TWO GREAT WAR HEROES, SGT ALVIN YORK (FAR RIGHT) AND S/SGT. PAUL HUFF. S/SGT. HUFF PREFERRED THE THOMPSON SMG AND ALVIN YORK THE SPRINGFIELD RIFLE
Mr. Browning revised and improved his design, with the assistance of the great Belgian firearms talent Dieudonné Joseph Saive, deleted those features demanded by the American Cavalry Board on his M1910/M1911 design, included a magazine based on the Estonian Model 1918 Talinn 9mm machinepistol design, and came up with this:
And, over the years, it's been refined into this:
Regards,
Raven6
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