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To: refermech

McCain was born in the Panama Canal. I wonder what his birth certificate looks like.

Perhaps the whole “natural born citizen” issue has been left alone as a result.

It seems to me that things like this are grasping at straws. If that is all McCain has then it is pretty much over.


4 posted on 10/10/2008 5:09:29 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Bomb Liechtenstein!)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

You may be right. If he had been born in Arizona it would be a different thing. But it would create doubt in peoples minds and that would be the point. Why won’t he produce his birth certificate? Why??


14 posted on 10/10/2008 5:14:47 AM PDT by refermech
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

The citizenship of children born to US military personnel stationed in the zone was established by Congress many years ago.

As was the lack of automatic citzenship of children born to US teenage mothers who mated with foreigners and gave birth off US soil.


15 posted on 10/10/2008 5:16:00 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

It was “over” when McCain enthusiastically pushed the Bailout and got it passed. Now he has NOTHING on which to campaign. The Ayers and ACORN stuff won’t fly at all. Have we not learned from our experience with the Clintons? Background and character are only relevant to candidates and politicians outside the Democrat Party.


30 posted on 10/10/2008 5:43:09 AM PDT by arthurus (Old age and guile beats youth and enthusiasm.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, then a US Territory. His parents were US Citizens, and his father was a US Naval officer in active service; his permanent duty station was the Canal Zone.

There is absolutely no question, under US Law, that John Sidney McCain is a "natural born citizen" of the United States.

Obama's citizenship is difficult to determine, since he steadfastly refuses to document the circumstances of his birth.

36 posted on 10/10/2008 5:51:11 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
“McCain was born in the Panama Canal. I wonder what his birth certificate looks like.”

Hundreds of thousands of Americans know exactly what it looks like. As stated in several previous threads, it is a “CONSULAR REPORT OF THE BIRTH OF A UNITED STATES CITIZEN ABROAD.”

Thousands of American citizens born to US military personnel serving abroad have these. Thousands of missionary children born abroad hold these. Thousands of children born to American business people, aid workers, students and travelers abroad hold these.

Three of my own children hold these as their one and only necessary birth certificate (one born in China, one in Russia, and one in the Philippines), and they are accepted for any purpose that any state-issued birth certificate would be required.

The document is issued by the U.S. Department of State through an embassy abroad, and clearly states that the child is a United States Citizen FROM BIRTH. No naturalization process is required.

If I am not mistaken, Mr. McCain was born in a hospital on a United States Naval installation in Panama, which, I understand, would be considered the same as U.S. territory.

I am of the assumption that if there were ever to be ever a court challenge over Mr. McCain's status, any federal court in the US would declare him to be a natural born citizen.

39 posted on 10/10/2008 6:25:46 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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