Posted on 10/10/2008 5:06:25 AM PDT by refermech
“If I am not mistaken, Mr. McCain was born in a hospital on a United States Naval installation in Panama, which, I understand, would be considered the same as U.S. territory.”
You are mistaking.
McCain was born in el Hospital Colón, Ciudad de Colón, República de Panamá.
The place of his birth is irrelevant to McCain's “natural-born” citizenship since both of his parents were U.S. citizens at the time of his birth, and at least one of them had been a resident prior to his birth. You are either a citizen at birth or you are a naturalized citizen. There is no third category, despite the attempts of some (on FR and elsewhere) to read one into the Constitution. There are thousands of children of U.S. citizens who are born outside of the U.S. each year and their status as “natural-born” citizens is not in dispute; they do not have to go through a “naturalization” process to attain U.S. citizenship. This topic has been examined closely in many previous threads. The relevant section of the U.S. Code is Sec. 1401.
At this point, since the thread is still here, it looks like the Admin Moderator agrees with you two, so I’ll quietly back away.
It is too late for that. The entire press will only cry WAFFLE and FLIP-FLOP and doesn’t know what he’s talking about and that is all the voters will hear. He should do it anyway but there is no benefit in it now.
LfMF was published before Obama had been elected to anything and before more than a handful of people had ever heard his name. To think that it was written with an eye to falsifying his Constitutional eligibility to become President strains credulity, IMHO.
As for ghost writing, it was only ghost written if the ghost writer wanted to paint Obama as an idiot. In the book Obama writes about looking up at the dark Kenyan sky, and seeing a band of hazy light that swept across the sky. He thought it was a cloud or some smoke. No he wasn't four years old. He had already graduated from Columbia. He had lived in Kansas, Indonesia, and Hawaii. He must have been in a place dark enough to have seen this hazy light before, but he had to be told that it was the Milky Way! When told he (or his ghost writer) quotes himself as saying, "Really?" (or something like that - I don't have the book at hand) What a doofus! And does he really not know that neither smoke nor clouds emit light? Correction: What a f%&^$n' doofus!
ML/NJ
Well, we can admit we are mistaken, ‘cause we’re not running for high office.
But the consequence is not really different. I believe that any federal court, if ever asked to rule in such a case (of course, there is no case at the moment re. Mr. McCain), would count the birth of a child to a U.S. military couple, holding a Consular Report of Birth properly issued, as having the same status as a child born in Arizona.
I had thought of a similar tactic and I think it’s a fine idea.
Also, I’m glad you posted this as a vanity separate thread because the McCain campaign is full of lazy folks who probably only read maybe the first 5 posts of a thread. But they read most of the thread titles.
Your ratio of one vanity per year sounds excellent. I wonder how many of the people who complain about your vanity have a higher ratio than you.
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