Posted on 10/02/2008 9:10:00 AM PDT by nateriver
“A Sheriff revoked the concealed handgun permit of a woman who insisted on open carrying her gun to her daughter’s soccer games”. Is the Open Carry movement making matters worse for legal gun owners?
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Er... no. If you invite the public, then the public's Rights come with them...
If nothing was preventing her from carrying at the game, then the rest of this is moot. The sheriff is out of line and should be removed from office.
My opinion only. These days, that's worth the electrons it's written with.
It’s true if you had more than one person carring open, the bad guys might go somewhere else. It’s not sound when only one person is seen carrying open.
When I carry concealed, I don’t have a radio with backup only seconds away. I only have a lowly cellphone that give me a message service when I call 911. I also wasn’t aware the military sends only one person at a time into a hot zone with backup a half hour away.
I’ll take the tactical advantage of concealed carry over open, thank you.
Although I do blend in the crowd, I do try to find a vantage point so I can observe the crowd. I'm a people watcher. I had a bit of concern at a mall some weeks back. Two guys who I found out didn't know each other had literally lined up carrying small duffel bags as they observed the crowd. They were in the center of the concourse near a fountain where families congregate. I was waiting for them to open their duffel bags at the same time. I was about fifty feet away and in a good spot. One had a cell call and they both went off in different directions. False alarm.
To each their own, I have no say. M
However, for myself, I totally concur. I do not want potential armed adversaries in my vicinity focusing any attention on me prior to my being aware of the danger they represent.
However, anyone who wishes to do evil in your vicinity will most likely target you first, as they can see you are armed.
If they see six or eight people armed...on a regular basis... then they not likely to suddenly target you first.
In fact if they see this all their life, and from an early age then they are likely to developing a mental pattern of not contemplating harming ANYONE, thus reducing the incidence of violence altogether.
An armed society is a polite society.
Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
~ Robert A. Heinlein
Nothing was preventing her from carrying CONCEALED at the game (thought it might have been prohibited by the league, they wouldn’t likely have frisked her). But inviting the public to an event sponsored by a private group does NOT mean any attendee can do anything they like as long as it’s legal somewhere. If a church group rents a room in a public facility for a prayer meeting, and advertises that “all are welcome”, that does NOT mean that all are welcome to come and loudly spout scorn and ridicule about the beliefs of the group — it means all are welcome to participate in the activity that the group is sponsoring, if they’re willing to participate according to the ground rules set by the group.
What did they do in the Old West, when people were more respectful and most still firmly believed in chivalry? They openly carried firearms.
It would make modern-day America a much nicer place. Well, the left coast and the northeast at least. The rest of the country is firmly on track.
***Why isn’t it legal to carry a concealed weapon without a permit?***
Because the Fed.gov made it so.
“Exactly. It is tactically unsound.”
Why is the board assuming she was open carrying for tactical reasons.
Perhaps she was open carrying to address the irrational fear of firearms not in the hands of the government and public education.
There are public and government efforts to paint anyone who owns a gun as bad people. Why shouldn’t there be a countering effort?
The Sullivan Act in NY is racist as well. It was passed to make it harder for opposing mobs to purchase firearms.
Tell that to security guards, single cops on patrol, etc...
The tactical "suprise" advantage of concealed is miniscule compared to ease of access, comfort, and the acclimation effect on the general populace.
Stop hiding our RIGHT to carry as some kind of a "dirty secret". It plays right into the anti-gunners hands.
Your example doesn't work. Those protesting at a prayer meeting are openly trying to disturb the function of the Event. Personal carry of arms does no such thing. No more so than wearing tennis shoes instead of boots.
Further, your example betrays again the "guilty/dirty" secret attitude towards carrying of arms.
Exactly what do you have to be so ashamed of?
You have the right and I fully support that right to carry open as you have the right to use underpowered calibers, holsters from KMart, pistols made with pot metal and tactics from hollywood.
You'll look pretty with a nice blue splotch across your forehead...
I view open carry as a right first then I think that it also reminds criminals that there could be more concealed guns in the audience so don’t get carried away with criminal acts.
> You may be trying to say “I’ll defend myself if I have to” but what they see is “I want to fight you”.<
Really? Why aren’t more officers shot at by people who aren’t committing other crimes. From the way you say it there should be constant gunfights.
Go to an IDPA match and compare the concealed carriers to the open carriers. There isn’t a difference in the total times or speeds.
I have a 1.8 second draw from concealed to a headshot at about 12 feet away. My son has an average of 1.6. Those speeds include the reaction time from the buzzer.
If you really are intent on the paintball scenario, have a situation where you are standing in line with other paintballers. A volunteer walks into the scenario and plants one on the back of your head. They then use their paintgun and your’s to finish off the rest of the masked volunteers in the line. How did your draw time help you?
>If nothing was preventing her from carrying at the game, then the rest of this is moot. The sheriff is out of line and should be removed from office.
My opinion only. These days, that’s worth the electrons it’s written with.<
An ever decreasing value.
Traditionally, concealed carry was a sign of criminal intent. The licence showed the police knew and approved.
Ahh, interesting that they were mind readers in those days : )
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