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To: Centurion2000
Oh no ... it just can't ever happen HERE!!! (Finnish Citizen 1913)

In 1913 there were no Finnish citizens. Finland was still a Dutchy of the Czarist Russian Empire.

159 posted on 09/27/2008 8:57:44 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (White Trash for Sarah!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Oh no ... it just can't ever happen HERE!!! (Finnish Citizen 1913)

In 1913 there were no Finnish citizens. Finland was still a Dutchy of the Czarist Russian Empire.

Well....there's more to that story....

Norway declared independence from Sweden in 1905, after 91 years of union [the US had been together only 84 years when the CSA states/Dixie seceeded]. Finland having been ceded to Russia by Sweden in 1809 after four centuries of Finnish-Swedish union, Finns viewed the events of Norway's independence with great interest.

On 17 June 1904, Russian Governor-General Nikolai Ivanovich Bobrikov was shot to death by Finnish Nationalist [and community organizer!] Eugen Schauman in the Helsinki Council of State [Senate]Building. Schaumann shot Bobrikov three times, using explosive-loaded bullets [probably mercury fulminate] from a M1900 7,65mm Browning pistol and then shot himself twice, sparing himself interrogation by Russian Okhrana secret police torture. Schauman died instantly and Bobrikov died later that night in the hospital.

Schauman is sometimes said to have been *the first Finnish citizen* and was voted #34 in a recent poll by Suuret suomalaiset television of most-admired Finnish historical figures, though not by Finland's many Russia-lovers and collectivists. In the place of the assassination in the hallway of the Council of State there is a memorial plaque that states Se Pro Patria Dedit (given himself for his country) Schauman, Lennart Hohenthal, and others of the Finnish *Activisti* Finns who worked to release Finland from the Imperium of Russia can thereby be considered true Finnish citizens, and patriots. They were certainly not good Russian citizens in any sense of the term- though they certainly knew that indeed, it could happen there, because it had.

206 posted on 09/30/2008 10:51:59 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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