Posted on 09/23/2008 3:14:32 PM PDT by LibWhacker
oh yeah? infinity plus one!
"Guess" is not data. They can believe what they want. But once they venture into the belief territory they will be rightly ridiculed for criticizing other people for the simple act of believing.
And I believe if you are being left behind, it is due to your own choice.
I don’t view it as “one of many”.
Rather, I see it as “layers”. A quantum layer. A relativistic layer. Others.
No “layer” can contradict another “layer”, so as long as they are in agreement, everythings hunky dory.
"Guess" is not data. They can believe what they want. But once they venture into the belief territory they will be rightly ridiculed for criticizing other people for the simple act of believing.
And I believe if you are being left behind, it is due to your own choice.
Absolutely! Interesting topic!
Imagine that.....
Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness.
Scripture has a lot to say about a new order of things; a new heaven and new earth.
Looks like science is just catching up..... again....
The TV show "Sliders"(from one concurrent universe to another) was either beyond its time or to early for it..
It appears Americans are getting stupider.. and the Sliders meme window is closed.. Quantum mechanics work on cars these days..
That "possibility" (of multiverses) certainly simplifies choice. It will not matter. For instance, I encourage all Obama supporters to not vote since Obama will win, somewhere. Maybe even here since seeing that the Obama supporters might have something up their sleeves, the McCain supporters will also not vote. But then this might be the multiverse where the necessary molecules just happen to gather in one spot and form Ronald Reagan again and seeing this event occur the single voter in each state will write in Ronald Reagan and he will be the President again. Ah, but he must be reformed within the territory of the United States to be eligible.
But then again, this may be the multiverse in which some clever scientist proves that there are not multiverses.
etc.
etc.
Ad infinitum. Does the list of all lists that do not contain their own names contain its own name? ala K. Göedel
You’re out there dude.. ( cleaning glasses)...
Thanks for the ping!
If one accepts the axiom that the conditions for each system are fundamentally different, then there can be nothing in this realm that can be analogous to the others. Hence his conclusion is nonsense.
“I don’t want to be left behind. “
Mock if you wish. Your eyes will be opened soon enough. Unfortunately, it may be too late.
You are on the side of an evil god? Am I to believe in a god of love and a god of forgiveness, or am I to believe in a petty, jealous, torturing god? If your god is a torturing god, then I am better than it. Does lowering myself to its level make me better or worse?
“If your god is a torturing god, then I am better than it”
Based on what criteria?
If I do not accept Jesus as Lord, I will be tortured for all eternity. I can't help it if I can't believe something. I'm not evil. I just can't believe in invisible people. Your god would torture me forever. I wouldn't treat a dog that way.
“If I do not accept Jesus as Lord, I will be tortured for all eternity. I can’t help it if I can’t believe something. I’m not evil. I just can’t believe in invisible people. Your god would torture me forever. I wouldn’t treat a dog that way.”
I figured you meant in terms of compassion, but the clarification was needed given the ambiguity. I know you don’t believe, but assume for the sake of argument that He exists. In what way are you better? Certainly not knowledge, power, or a host of other attributes, so that’s why I was asking what criteria you were using when you asserted that you were better than the Christian deity.
BTW, what is your field? I see no reason why someone who has a very logical brain can’t be a believer. I’m a mathematician and have no problem believing. In fact, I know a number of other religious mathematicians (though many keep this side of themselves pretty quiet). On the other hand, I don’t know very many religious physicists (in the closet or not). My hunch has always been that this is a result of the difference of method between the two areas.
I am kinder. I am more forgiving. I understand why some people can't believe in things without evidence. I wouldn't torture Osama Bin Laden out of vengence. Not for a minute, not for an hour, and certainly not for all eternity. Don't get me wrong, I would kill him with my own hands. I just wouldn't torture him.
“I wouldn’t torture Osama Bin Laden out of vengence.”
I wish I could say that I wouldn’t either. but I’m honestly not so sure.
Also, just to be clear, I was getting on you for making a rather rude comment about the rapture, not your position on this article. I really have no interest in the “how” God did it aspect of the debate, so I don’t waste my time on the evolution threads.
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