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To: 7thson

Just a thought from someone who doesn’t really have a right to an opinion:

A lot of people think that Patton was a shameless self promoter - something like Custer (without being as stupid as Custer was...) and that he had some issues with impulse control. My father’s opinion is that Omar Bradley was every bit the soldier Patton was, learned all his tricks, etc., without ever developing his problems.

Also, Patton had some stupid ideas. He liked the Sherman tank and thought its only fault was that it needed a second coaxial MG in the gun mantlet. He thought that tanks should be used against infantry and that AT guns and Tank Destroyers were for use against enemy tanks. It could be argued that he got a lot of tankers killed with those beliefs. At good reference would be the book “Death Traps” by Belton Y. Cooper.


13 posted on 09/15/2008 7:08:19 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: Little Ray
He thought that tanks should be used against infantry and that AT guns and Tank Destroyers were for use against enemy tanks.

That was not just Gen. Patton's 'belief', that was US Army Doctrine. Tanks supported infantry & (light tanks) scouted. Tank Destroyers dealt with enemy tanks. A 'belief' can be changed, but Doctrine is what you train to & is much harder switch since it influences the design of the weapons.

It should be noted that only the TD's had guns heavy enough to deal with the frontal armor on some German Tanks, and even then it was iffy.

Rommell used to use his 88MM anti-aircraft guns as "PAK Screens" in the Desert. Draw the enemies' tanks onto the long-range high-velocity guns, then whip around the flanks with your own tanks.

15 posted on 09/15/2008 7:28:16 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Little Ray

Didn’t the Germans have the same philosophy?

Tanks against infantry.
Infantry against tanks.

Patton believed that the main weapon an any tank was the machinegun.

Combined arms operations bears out a lot of this approach, especially in urban environments.


17 posted on 09/15/2008 7:47:12 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Little Ray

Bradley was a grocer; there’s nothing wrong with that, because soldiers need to eat.


27 posted on 09/19/2008 2:54:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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