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Is McCain liberalizing the republicans?
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Posted on 08/29/2008 4:13:56 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

Noticed that two planks of the party's platform have changed?

The one about drilling is gone. Buh bye ANWR.

And the new one about global warming? Yeah, that's real conservative. *SARCASM*


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008rncconvention; conservatism; election; electionpresident; elections; liberalism; mccain; republicans; rncplatform
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
I knew re-registering as a democrat was not a mistake. McCain is a buffoon!

Well now that you are home with your like minded, you have no need to spam us with your hysterically ignorant rants Buh bye!

21 posted on 08/29/2008 4:33:10 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
I’m not going to engage in the conspiratorializing given her record while short seems solid.

Bad idea. Considering how wholly ignorant of all the facts your are, conspiratoriazlising is your only hope.

22 posted on 08/29/2008 4:34:16 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: Man50D

most people on this forum were critical of mccain months ago, myself included.

we were surprised that he was the nominee.

now, that’s all passed.

mccain has listened to the conservatives. rush drew a line in the sand on his radio program.

mccain did not pick a pro-abortion vp, etc.

now it’s time to work together to defeat the evil ones.


23 posted on 08/29/2008 4:34:32 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
So does Moveon.org pay you by the post or by the word?
24 posted on 08/29/2008 4:35:00 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: Kimberly GG

You’re right, besides, after the election fever has passed, who even notices the VP?


25 posted on 08/29/2008 4:35:21 PM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: RetiredArmy

even generals had a low rank when they started. They became Generals for a reason


26 posted on 08/29/2008 4:35:33 PM PDT by always vigilant
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To: Man50D

That’s right, you are voting for Boortz/Man50D ticket because we need the Fart Tax!


27 posted on 08/29/2008 4:43:11 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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Palin knocks Biden on drilling, ties it to national security.

She supports ANWAR drilling. Her husband works on the Northslope on the oil field

McCain supports offshore drilling and will no doubt come around to ANWAR also.

Then again you can vote for Obama who is for no drilling


28 posted on 08/29/2008 4:54:48 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: ken21

Rush drew HIS line in the sand.

My line in the sand for McCain is him admitting that campaign finance reform was a frontal assault on the basic concept of America and he’ll burn in hell for eternity for making that a career goal.

He hasn’t gotten anywhere near that one.

You always know you’re in trouble with a candidate when they pick a VP to mollify the base, the VP is supposed to help grab the middle.


29 posted on 08/29/2008 5:01:44 PM PDT by boogerbear
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To: boogerbear

“You always know you’re in trouble with a candidate when they pick a VP to mollify the base, the VP is supposed to help grab the middle”

This is whats wrong here. The purpose of the VP is not to win elections. The VP is the back up to the president and must be fully capable of being sworn in any second of the day and awesome command, possibly at at time of war.


30 posted on 08/29/2008 5:15:41 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

Sure the INTENTION of the office is as you state, but like Steely Dan said: those days are gone forever, over a long time ago. That long time ago would be when the VP switched from being the guy who finished 2nd to a combined “ticket” running with the P. At that point the VP became about winning elections.


31 posted on 08/29/2008 5:25:23 PM PDT by boogerbear
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To: boogerbear

When it comes to VP picks,

The question I think the American people should ask themselves is, “is this person a good back up should something happen to the president”.

What if this happens at a time when a nuclear conflict with Russia is eminent.

Now my first thought is Obama is NOT the person the American people want in this position but at the same time McCains choice seems to be purely political(who can help me win) and not based on what’s best for the country.

If too many Americans lose faith in McCains judgement he will lose by default. It takes only a very small number to hand Obama the election at this time. McCain is gambling with the future of this country.


32 posted on 08/29/2008 5:30:38 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

Every VP choice since 1804 has been purely political. There’s a reason that during this time of year they’re called “running mate”, that is their job.

And really as for taking over in case the P goes down. That’s so rare, and so much weird stuff can happen along the way (look at how Ford became president), that it’s really not a meaningful contemplation. Even with an old fart like McCain in the big chair there’s really no reason to think there’s more than a 1 in 20 chance that his running mate (Palin, but I want to focus on the title here) will get the big chair via succession. Either he’ll live or she’ll be replaced before he dies or some other oddity.

Everybody that’s ever run for president did their moves to win, there’s an assumption in them that their victory is what’s best for the country and whatever it takes is worth it. And everybody that’s ever run for president has gambled with the future of this country, as do we every time we vote.


33 posted on 08/29/2008 5:41:26 PM PDT by boogerbear
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To: cripplecreek
I admire you're commitment. McCain, on the whole, is not conservative. He doesn't belong in the Republican party. RINO by definition.

Pity we don't have a Whig party anymore. McCain and Lieberman would be at home there.

I do wish you would reconsider not voting for McCain. I was just a kid during the Carter years, but I remember it was awful. My best friend, a dairy farmer from SE Ohio still blames the failed economic policies of Carter on his parents' divorce.

You do what you want (yeah, like you need my permission:-)), but Barack wants to socialize medicine, talk with that bearded closeted homo running Iran and that guy wearing chick glasses that's running North Korea.

This is our choice. I'm voting McCain/Palin.

34 posted on 08/29/2008 5:41:35 PM PDT by Paul Heinzman (Strange. Liberals are usually so well behaved.)
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To: ken21
mccain did not pick a pro-abortion vp, etc.

I don't consider only one issue. I look a the totality of a candidates voting record over thier career. McCain has voted too many times with the socialist Democrats to summarily dismiss it simply because he has an R after his name.

now it’s time to work together to defeat the evil ones.

The evil comes in the form of socialism regardless of party label. The evil can only be defeated by defeating both Obama and McCain.
35 posted on 08/29/2008 5:44:08 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: boogerbear

I aggree with all your points also and I hope you are right.

I just don’t like the gamble factor, we (republicans)have to make history just to win. (the first woman VP)

We must win with McCain or this coutry will suffer for decades.

Obama should not be allowed in the White House on a visitors pass, much less even be considered for commander n chief.


36 posted on 08/29/2008 5:52:11 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

Well it’s not that big a history making. She’s only the second woman VP candidate, and the first was going up against a popular presidential incumbent.

I’m not of the opinion that we won’t suffer for decades if McCain wins. He’s anti-free speech, he’s pro-amnesty, and at strange random intervals he “reaches across the aisle” and makes the libs happy. Obama shouldn’t be the president, but really neither should McCain. This is just a sad election year, lots of crappy candidates.


37 posted on 08/29/2008 5:57:58 PM PDT by boogerbear
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To: RetiredArmy
I certainly hope that is not the truth and this lady has a back bone and will kick ass.

A backbone and kick ass against who? Her boss who has voted with the socialist Democrats repeatedly over the years?
38 posted on 08/29/2008 6:02:31 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Kimberly GG
The only thing certain is that the next president will not be a conservative or a friend of conservatives. The best we can hope for is to have a conservative a heartbeat away and in the wings for 2012. I do not support McCain and never will. But I have the “luxury” of living in a state where my vote for him would make no difference.
39 posted on 08/29/2008 6:07:31 PM PDT by webrover
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To: Man50D

apparently you want

oba mao

to win.


40 posted on 08/29/2008 6:09:43 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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